irokin Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 Grabbed some engine specs for those of you who are intersted Type: Toyota 4A-GE, 4 Cylinder, 16 Valves, Dual Overhead Cam Displacement: 1.6 Liters Power: 250+hp @ 9500 rpm Induction: TRD Sequential Fuel Injection Bore: 3.189 Inches Stroke: 3.031 Inches Compression Ratio: 12.7:1 Engine Development: Toyota Racing Development (TRD) U.S.A., Inc. Fuel: VP 103 Octane Unleaded Fuel Pump: Toyota Exhaust: Custom Quote
Teddy Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 if i didnt know any better, i would of said it had rotary jeans ;) Quote
irokin Posted June 10, 2004 Author Report Posted June 10, 2004 I don't think rotarys rev nearly quite as hard and make quite as much power as a V10 F1 car.... (I believe 19,000rpm+ is the record) For anything other than 402m dashes...rotarys suck... Quote
demuire Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 Standard 4AGE's fire 2 at a time, I think. Even though no matter how I think of it I can't see how that works ;) I know that cylinders 1 and 3 come up at the same time and cylinders 2 and 4 come up at the same time, but it's a 4-stroke so that doesn't make a difference... And isn't the firing order 1-3-2-4 or something like that? That's umm... pretty nice compression :insane: Quote
Super Jamie Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 For anything other than 402m dashes...rotarys suck... that is so much bullshit ;) i'm pretty sure distributorless 4AGEs (20v?) are dual waste spark, thats what stewart ford has told me anyway. with a distributor, you have single spark. yes the cylinders are coming up and down and there's spark at/around tdc even on the "off" cylinder, but the valves are only opening to allow air-fuel into one cylinder hence you get your firing order 1342. the advantage of this system is that the coil has more charge time (actually dual coils, one for each pair) so you get a bigger spark you and i are way too similar nick, one of my dream cars is an import turbo series 5 (as stated here http://www.superjamie.net/ke25/other/ for a while now). but as people said to me when i suggested it, "what? you're like, the king of old skool!" so i'd have to get like a nice RX2 with a series 5 turbo motor :insane: lucky once built a mini motor with 12.4:1 compression. one of his houses had a really steep driveway, so you'd start at the top with a push, roll down to the bottom, drop the clutch and it would just compression lock, screeching the tyres on tarmac and throwing you thru the windscreen. now THAT is compression :D Quote
MarcD Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 lucky once built a mini motor with 12.4:1 compression. one of his houses had a really steep driveway, so you'd start at the top with a push, roll down to the bottom, drop the clutch and it would just compression lock, screeching the tyres on tarmac and throwing you thru the windscreen. now THAT is compression :insane: Just hope you don't get a flat battery and end up having to push start it. ;) Quote
irokin Posted June 10, 2004 Author Report Posted June 10, 2004 For anything other than 402m dashes...rotarys suck... that is so much bullshit ;) Yes it is bullshit...everyone hugs the faithful piston. But when you think about it...all the hype about rotarys but no one looks at all the negatives. yea...i want an S4 RX7 (in gunmetal grey thanks) so I don't hate rotarys...I just don't think theyre the greatest thing since sliced cheese like theyre made out to be... Quote
demuire Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 Oh yeah that's right... It's the injectors that run 2 at a time, not the spark ;) Getting wiring diagrams mixed up in my head... Quote
Teddy Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 I'm gona use my standard phrase when i don't know what else to say *i like my 4K* ;) Quote
Super Jamie Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 i don't really think rotors are anything special, and if you spend enough money on anything it will do 9s (even a 4K), i don't think ENOUGH people look at the positives of rotary engines. they're known for being unreliable, short-lived, having no torque and eating too much fuel. these things are all true of early rotaries, but anything with technology after gen 1 rx7 is pretty good i like my 4k too ;) Quote
Teddy Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 possible? 4K? under 10? *gets very excited and thinks crazy mods to 4k* *evil* mwahahahah ;) ...still wouldnt mind that 3k adlantic motor (the 1 in the pics section) oh yea Quote
Super Jamie Posted June 10, 2004 Report Posted June 10, 2004 you'd have to spend a hell of a lot of money on a 4k to make it do 9 second passes though, and it would be totally undriveable on the street. in fact, about the only thing left original would probably be the block and head Quote
demuire Posted June 11, 2004 Report Posted June 11, 2004 not to mention it'd probably be so highly tuned that it would last about 1 pass before needing a rebuild... Quote
Super Jamie Posted June 11, 2004 Report Posted June 11, 2004 c'mon, it could at least do a run in rev and burnout! yay top fueller 4k ;) Quote
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