Toyota used the IHI RHF4B turbo for the 7A-FTE (or 7A-FE with Turbo as it says on the engine repair manual). This is the same turbo as the small one (the primary) on the Subaru Legacy/Liberty B4 Twin Turbo. After a very brief search, I couldn't find any info on upgrading the turbos on these models, but I'm sure the info is out there. I'm just thinking that perhaps you could find a new, slightly larger IHI turbo that will bolt onto your current manifold. Maybe tell Toyota to contact Subaru and see what turbo they recommend to replace the standard small one? There HAS to be a bolt-on replacement of some kind available, even if it's not exactly the same trim specs. Perhaps find out if the larger turbo from the Legacy twin-turbo system will bolt on?

Subaru's Liberty B4's run an IHI VF33 primary and an IHI VF32 secondary.

 

:)

According to the info I've found, the 1993-95 model BG5A Legacy B4 with 250PS had a VF13 RHF4B primary and a VF14 RHF4B secondary turbo. The WRX's used the VF22 and bigger, so I doubt they are a bolt-on replacement, and I very much doubt they'd be any good for the 7A-FTE anyway.

Probably best to specify year models then when suggesting parts to people, as to not confused / mislead people.

 

My parnter owns a 2002 Liberty B4 MYO3 which runs IHI VF33 and IHI VF32 and given how much pick up it has I doubted very much that it would be the same turbo, that was all.

 

Sorry bud...

No worries. I actually didn't realise the B4's ran different turbos between different years and variations until you disputed what I'd said. It was only after further searching that I found that Subaru seem to like changing turbos - a LOT! :)

I spoke to Toyota yesterday, apparently there is ONE factory turbo in Australia and it's $5700.

 

I also spoke to Bill at ASE (he's a total legend by the way) and he's putting together a full report on why the turbo failed and what to do about it (he's of the opinion that the garrett is the way to go) total cost from him is roughly (I spoke to him before he'd finished the quote) $5500.

 

Now I'm in a bit of a quandry, so I'd appreciate everyone's opinion (well those of you who haven't posted yet, to those people who have, thank you) these are my options:

 

1. Stick with the factory turbo, my warranty stands until April 2008

 

2. Go with the Garrett option, better performance all round turbo is warrantied until August 2008 possibly lose the warranty (9 months early) on my driveline (engine, gear box, turbo).

 

Basically from all the research I've found (online and talking to Bill), if I go with the garrett option, the car's going to be better all round and should anything happen in 2, 3 or 5 years time, it's easily fixed.

 

But I'm afraid that after everything that's gone wrong with the car thus far, if my warranty is cancelled on the engine, and anything does goes wrong, I'm completely f*cked. I wouldn't be able to afford to put another engine in the car, but if the turbo goes after warranty ends, it'll probably take me 3 months to save enough to fix it, by which time the factory turbo won't be available and I'd have to go with the garrett option anyway.... on the other hand, I'm perdantic about getting the car serviced regularly and the engine HAS already been replaced and either turbo WILL be new so what more mechanically could go wrong?... right??!

 

Gosh I wish I had a crystal ball....

 

 

Lesley :)

Well, if your engine packed it, you could always do a 3SGTE conversion :)

Garrett.

put the original one in and sell the car, buy a new cooper S.

Lesley, as much as the Garrett option would be appealling, I'd have to say that a standard replacement turbo would seem to me to be the best option. That way you maintain your factory warranty for the remaining nine months, and if anything goes wrong in that time, you're safe. In the event that this new turbo fails as well, you can go for the Garrett option then, as you'll have less time left on your warranty anyway. The only problem is that the turbo or other parts may wait until your warranty has expired to fail, in which case you've got problems anyway. At least if you go the standard turbo and it fails after your warranty ends, you'd have a legitimate case for consumer affairs (if Toyota weren't keen on helping you replace it).

Lesley, as much as the Garrett option would be appealling, I'd have to say that a standard replacement turbo would seem to me to be the best option. That way you maintain your factory warranty for the remaining nine months, and if anything goes wrong in that time, you're safe. In the event that this new turbo fails as well, you can go for the Garrett option then, as you'll have less time left on your warranty anyway. The only problem is that the turbo or other parts may wait until your warranty has expired to fail, in which case you've got problems anyway. At least if you go the standard turbo and it fails after your warranty ends, you'd have a legitimate case for consumer affairs (if Toyota weren't keen on helping you replace it).

Agreed on most points you have there.

 

can't really go wrong and as he says, that way if the turbo stuffs up again within that period, then get the garret.

Just trying to think of your warranties and working them to the best of their ability :yes: and also your situation with previous engine issues. Would be good to have that extra cover just to be sure.

 

Best of luck, sorry for posting again, but I really hope it all works out for you!

you don't know the service history of the motor prior to when you got it.

i would be requesting toyota to be using a good oil, i like the HPR 10 or HPR 15, and going with the garrett turbo. by rights, nothing should go wrong, and if it does, well f@$k hey. its unlikely to do it within 9 months, so you may aswell throw the warranty away.

sure you can't take the toyota payout get a second hand replacement, put that on, thus keeping it stock, thus keeping it within warranty, so if it does go bang, u still ahve warranty and you have money in your pocket?

hello,

 

I spoke to Toyota today and, well, it seems my choices are limited, I CAN go for the garret but they've decided to rebuild the turbo, retaining the outer shell and putting all new parts in, and my warranty will stand.

 

I could go for the garrett, but I've spoken to a number of people and they've all pretty much said the same thing as you, ancullen... go with what Toyota have suggested and then when I'm out of warranty I'll go with the garrett option, so I'm going to start saving and get it done in a year...

 

I hear for certain from Toyota tomorrow and I'll find out then how long it will take and when I can have my car back. On the plus side ATS have said that my old turbo was never working properly so with the rebuilt turbo, everything should be a heck of a lot better....

 

Lesley :yes:

Then it will go from having a cold to having a chest infection, right Lesley? :yes:

LMAO raven, yes, I will call her snuffles :yes: *ahhh phhhssstttt choooooo* LOL