MR AKE70 Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 (edited) I'm thinking of setting up a ke70 drift car and was deciding on what motors to use, i did seriously want to run a rotary as i have always wanted one, but the SR20det motor and the 4agze motor have come into consideration. Now the thing is if i decide that the compertition/cost become too great with drift, that i would just turn it into a 1/4 mile car. So i would want to have a motor that i could get high ten second quarter miles out of, thus why i liked the rotary motor idea. But the question is: Could the Sr20det or the 4agze (with turbo rather then super charger) do a 10sec 1/4, in a ke70? Would the costs to acheive this be too high compaired to the rotary? Would there be reliability problems compared to the rotary? Thanks guys. scott Edited May 26, 2005 by MR AKE70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Revhead[RL] Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 well all options would cost big bucks.... mate of mine has a ke70 that does 12.3 with a turbo 20v..... and thats got some serious power.... youd be looking at 400hp at least to do a 10... so unless you have 10k to spend on the engine...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1G-GTE KE70 Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 (edited) Falcon 4.0 Inline 6 Big cam Exhaust Port the shit out of the head etc Smash it into the front of the car (goodbye firewall) hello no stopping or turning. btw how's my old KE going? got any pics? Edited May 26, 2005 by 1G-GTE KE70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1G-GTE KE70 Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 (edited) 3.9 dodgy centrefire buckets of poo that came out in EA falcons? they suck ass. get one from like an EL falcon or something. even an AU. ooh... a BA XR6T ENGINE!!! Edited May 26, 2005 by 1G-GTE KE70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy_bunny Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 what about a worked 2tc? for around $8000 can import a 200hp one from the US.... SCCA GT race eninge.. approx specs for these engines: Custom fabricated intake manifold with 48 DCOE's TDC dry sump Electromotive crank trigger wheel with sensor aluminum dry sump pan Crower Rods JE Pistons Moldex billet radiused crank billet steel main caps Quartermaster billet steel ultralite weight flywheel with 5 1/2" Tilton clutch Peak power @ 8000 RPM.....peak torque @ 6200 RPM. High HP 4AGE's are expensive f@$kers.. BRAND NEW TRD inhanced 4age, pro spec motors(raceing motor) are available makeing approx. 240HP+@9000rpm... depending on what u do... BUT come at a price.. approx. 30, 000 to build.. or around 15, 000 2nd hand. on in US going for 13, 000atm... in that case ud be better with a sr20det... going for a 4AGTE u could probally build for around 15, 000 and make a fair wack of hp... ie 250RWHP...maybe... dunno, never looked in turbo motors... 13BT u could have a 400RWHP motor for around $14, 000 from Mazfix... thats motor, ported, dowled, fuel pump, surge tank, manifolds, big turbo, fuel system, intercooler. oil cooler, wastgate, microtech ECU, fuel pressure reg, clutch, s4/5 gearbox.... i was quoted $14,000 for that and told it wold make approx 400rwhp.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR AKE70 Posted May 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Arrr, the rotor is looking better and better at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy_bunny Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Also forgot to add, have u looked at Cosworth motors? like.. the ducks nuts when it comes to nice stuff.... Easy 300hp out of a NA 2L... Some guy in the US was makeing 290BHP out of a BDX Swindon 2.0 liter for $US10, 000 includeing the engine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR AKE70 Posted May 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 The thing that worries me with the rotary is reliability? What fails on them? if you build one to handle 30psi of boost and run it at 15 well it be more reliable? and well it suffer in running smoothness? I might have to ask these question on a rotary site. i just want to know what I'm in for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy_bunny Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 (edited) that engine there, is available in a 280ish RWHP model for 7000... will run it day in day out for years.... With those extra mods it has been modded to take such power and if u treat it right itll last... like any other engine... its designed to run that HP... But been a ported motor it will no have aslong a life as the 280hp model.. Smoothnes will be shitter with a ported rotor, but really not that bad... Edited May 26, 2005 by crazy_bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northen Rolla Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Rotaries are reliable if you keep the services upto them, check the fluids regularly simply cause they need it, plus you can detect probs early before the the go flying out the bonnet... like any engine really. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 3.9 dodgy centrefire buckets of poo that came out in EA falcons? they suck ass. Well, they are about as reliable as a Niva Lada. That IS A FACT ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 SR20DET would see you closer to 10s then what the 4AGZE would. I was told by Promaz that it would be good for a low 12 sec pass with HEAPS spent on the motor. Otherwise, 1GTTE 2.0 litre 6 cylinder twin turbo. Take out both turbos and put a T76 or something along those "mammoth hairdryer" units in, and you'd have similar poweroutput as the BLKJET Supra.... Over 500 horses at the rear wheels! Very impressive. And may I include this? It doesn't want to stay on a dyno for very long.... it bounces too much! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Revhead[RL] Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 and the niva is known for its reliability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Revhead[RL] Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 didnt i have a figure of 15-20 before? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blown 5k Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 There`s a daty 1200 coupe (rayglass car)over here sr20det with approx 780 hp at the crank i believe,[email protected] also know of a silvia sr20det powered circuit car thats dry sumped runs 30 pounds boost and is making close on 600hp.Go the nissans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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