love ke70 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Posted June 9, 2011 ok, so i looked into both the tilton and the wilwood options looking at going for this http://www.tiltonracing.com/content.php?page=list2&id=13&m=b in the aluminium, with adjustable pedals, and 6.2 ratio. thanks for the heads up on those :) only issue is it seems you can't run a booster, not even remote from reports, and no one seems to list a boosted option. while i don't have to run a booster for legality purposes, i do have to be able to stop the car with less than 60KG of force on the pedal, to keep it street legal. fluid inside the cabin is not an issue so long as reservoir can be accessed etc. i i can keep the MC's small enough, and the brakes good, pedal force may not be too bad, but i wanna clear up my options before i spend cash. not too expensive though, which is a win. :) tomorrow i might try get to a wreckers and see what they have in vans etc, which must have an overhung one like these, and I'm assuming a booster. slow, the issue with modifying the intake, or going to a custom intake, is the amount i would lose. to make it work, i would virtually have to remove the entire plenum top, down to the runners of cylinder 5 and 6, this pic from my old setup should make it clear how high the plenum sits, compared to the brake master: cheers, andy Quote
love ke70 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Posted June 9, 2011 anyone know the standard pedal ratio? 6.2 is the best i could get, maybe ill have to measure up a ke70 one tomorrow and see what it is... will also depend on MC size, the smallest i can get in wilwood is 3/4, from what old mate at performance wholesale was telling me, wheras the tilton goes down to 5/8 and 7/10 but he couldnt even find what i was looking for til i rung him back with the p/n, and it was listed in the computer all along, so thats putting me off, but the wilwood gear is cheaper, and only real trade off seems to be you can't adjust the pedals... might search MC sizes. to update todays progress, well, it was slow after the time spent this morning looking into the brakes and talking to the engineer, and it was fecking cold, but i did get everything into the car, which was tailshaft, brake calipers etc, and got the weight on the car, and with the weight on, the ball joint is within its operating parameters on the tie rod, with the steering arms on the wrong sides, but the issue is the steering arms hits the wheels. so i had to swap them over, which resulted in me running late to get the car weighed, and without looking at the time left, and when i did think of the time and ring, at 5 to 5, the guy had already gone home, so peak hour traffic with a rather large trailer was fun, took me an hour to drive the 40 ks home. so thats first on the plan tomorrow, then get the car down to luke, then go over to racer industries and put my arse in some seats and check out these pedal boxes, then compare prices to some online retailers, gonna look at prices online for the pedal stuff now, its not even too bad locally. Quote
Mitch-12 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 Tilton is heaps better then wilwood any day but maybe street it doesnt matter as much we have had a wilwood brake pedal snap and i have a tilton floor mount here for sale brake and clutch if your interested Quote
love ke70 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Posted June 9, 2011 mmm yeah, i think it would matter if my brake pedal snapped, street, track or hillclimb, id still be a touch upset... i was just looking into the floor mounted ones, how much you want for yours? whats the part number or got a link? i just wasnt sure how a floor mount would fit, and how it would go for pedal movement, ive always thought hanging pedals nicer to operate. and mitch, what is it you do? you seem to have alot of knowledge for someone playing with a matte black corolla on stockies in a paddock :P Quote
Mitch-12 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 well I'm 16 finished school in year 8 have a v8supercar that i also race ex anthony tratt au mainly do motorsport wiring and run racecars for people with my dad we also have a fujitsu series BF and for pedal box all our racecars have floor mound but your right our seats are further back for leg room and usually extended colums but it would fit pedal movemwnt for us usually isnt much best way to describe brake pedal is rock hard but we run big cylinders in our au with no booster and the bf has a hard but no where near as hard as the au pedal but more travel smaller cylinders but you will have a booster so it will be normal not sure what size you will need.. heres a link to thes one i have i think i have 2 of them here http://www.cardwells.co.nz/Our_Brands/Tilton_Clutches/Pedal_Boxes/MenuId/36.aspx it's the top one not sure what ratio it is Quote
Mitch-12 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Posted June 9, 2011 also do engines and suspension and everything really so i built a ke70 out of all the scraps haha for some fun Quote
love ke70 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Posted June 9, 2011 mmm i wont have a booster, can't run them on these, unless you know of something i don't? how much you want for the floor mounted one? cheers, andy Quote
love ke70 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Posted June 9, 2011 ok, good news. got the car weighed this morning so this is now with the 1G, the W57, the alfa diff, my steel wheels, 15x7 front and 15x8 rear, fuel tank probably 3/4 full, i cbf filling it, just to pour it away at a later date, the rad is in, battery in boot, muffler in boot, no water in rad and no engine oil, but i reckon that counteracts te 3/4 tank of fuel, which was full when i first got the corner weights done. No intercooler or turbo, but other than that, pretty well everything is there. with no driver and with driver so looking at that, ive added 27.5 KG but the percentages front to rear with me in the car has gone from 56% on the front down to 52.7 on the front. so, thats really f@$king cool. :D just gotta shift a bit more weight to the right of the car, but I'm sure we can find 20kg to stick on the right hand side somewhere. by the time the cage goes in the balance will probably be slightly biased to the rear, seeings as when I'm in the car it improves the front/rear percentage, the same will likely happen with the cage, which is gonna be obviously mainly behind me, with just the front hoops and strut braces coming into the front end... but yeah, we're good to go :D Quote
Mitch-12 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Posted June 10, 2011 i thought you were think of using like vh44 remote mount booster um ill make sure i have 2 i need 1 for my car i'd say around $300 Quote
love ke70 Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Posted June 10, 2011 how does the remote booster work with the tilton pedal box? Quote
Mitch-12 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Posted June 10, 2011 yyou just run the line in and out and run vac into it there crap if you can put up withh a hard pedal it's much better and you will have feel through the pedal Quote
Evan G Posted June 10, 2011 Report Posted June 10, 2011 use a early ke30 booster as there ALOT smaller and will bolt straight in Quote
love ke70 Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Posted June 10, 2011 evan it still wont fit, it fouls on the MC aswell as the booster mitch, you just run what line in and out? sorry to appear dense, but I'm not sure how these boosters work, or any booster to be honest :P i will probably try without the booster, but if your saying theres a way i can get a boosted setup if i have to, I'm just trying to understand. while i understand you can get a remote booster, what do you connect it to? cheers, andy Quote
Mitch-12 Posted June 11, 2011 Report Posted June 11, 2011 http://www.fbekholden.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1447 this has a pic of how it works Quote
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