Hiro Protagonist Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 if the trailer is loaded correctly then there should be barely any weight on the actual car, add to that it will be a "braked" trailor and I'm not too sure where the big issue is? so in reality its just custom cross members...thats not too bad If the trailer is loaded correctly then there should barely be any weight on the car, VERTICALLY (ie tow-ball load). However, acceleration and braking play a very big role in the way the car can tow. Think about it, going down a steep hill, even with a braked trailer it will be at least 50% heavier than the car towing, which means it will "push" the car significantly. There is a reason why NSW tow regs state that you should always tow with a vehicle heavier than your gross load (which is why Landcruisers etc make great tow vehicles, because they weigh the same as a small planetoid). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 for starters, it wont be "underbraked", I'm not as silly as it appears most of you think, if i was to go ahead with the 22re, then i would also be putting either my spare set of fc3s brakes on, or doing the CPH upgrade Its STILL a phenomenally bad not to mention ILLEGAL idea. Seriously, drop the idea now before you kill yourself or someone else. I found a video of what it will look like too. Granted this caravan was purposely weighted incorrectly but it illustrates perfectly what will happen to you even with a correctly weighted trailer and such a massive load for a light car. Youtube Video -> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curly Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 possibly the most stupid topic ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Fish Posted September 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 lol at 90% of the responses in this thread... for starters the only real info i wanted to know is regarding putting the motor in, not wether it would be good for towing or not...i don't care how illegal it is or how stupid you think it is... the driver in the above video did the wrong thing when the caravan started to swing anyway... at the end of the day, nothing you say in this thread regarding the cars use for towing will change my mind on doing the conversion...so if you don't mind getting back on topic that would be great... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axentrik Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) if towing isnt going to change your mind about doing the conversion why not think about the complete idiocy of doing it. Edited September 18, 2009 by Axentrik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Fish Posted September 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 if your talking about the conversion being idiocy then you need to rethink your comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 lol at 90% of the responses in this thread... for starters the only real info i wanted to know is regarding putting the motor in, not wether it would be good for towing or not...i don't care how illegal it is or how stupid you think it is... the driver in the above video did the wrong thing when the caravan started to swing anyway... at the end of the day, nothing you say in this thread regarding the cars use for towing will change my mind on doing the conversion...so if you don't mind getting back on topic that would be great... You said that one of the main reasons you were considering the conversion was so it could possibly be used as a tow vehicle. Hopefully we have since talked you out of that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curly Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 lol at 90% of the responses in this thread... for starters the only real info i wanted to know is regarding putting the motor in, not wether it would be good for towing or not...i don't care how illegal it is or how stupid you think it is... the driver in the above video did the wrong thing when the caravan started to swing anyway... at the end of the day, nothing you say in this thread regarding the cars use for towing will change my mind on doing the conversion...so if you don't mind getting back on topic that would be great... this is why 22R 2,2l is an r series motor carby 1 cam 8 valve dinosour that will have more oil on the outside than in, 3RZ is 2.7l is an r series, fuel injected 2 cams 16 valve, one is last generation motor one is this generation, same mounts, gearbox, diff, and take up the same of space, both legal, now what would make you think of doing a 22r, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Fish Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) 3rz...hilux? edit...i said 22re...which is efi btw, and have quite the poke to them over a 3tc... Edited September 20, 2009 by Go Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeAE71 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 This whole thing smells fishy :jamie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbey Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Alright, the topic is getting off track. Regardless of Go Fish's plans for how he uses his vehicle, if you can offer him any advice about the 22re conversion that would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Fish Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 ^^^thank you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanhann Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 http://www.rollaclub.com/board/?showtopic=30092 they sit in ke70's pretty nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Fish Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 (edited) does anyone know the current whereabouts of the above vehicle? EDIT: by that, i mean does anyone know who current owns it, wouldnt mind having a chat with them/making an offer Edited September 21, 2009 by Go Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the witzl Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Going thru this exercise myself with an 18RGTE (efi, turbo, 18RG) i can tell you that it is NOT an economically smart idea. Besides the custom engine mounts, customised gearbox crossmember, etc... you will also need a custom tailshaft. To be able to tow a car trailer, you will also need to significantly upgrade the diff. Its an expensive proposition, and to be honest, you are fvcking stupid for suggesting the idea of towing a car trailer with a KE70 - no matter WHAT motor, brakes, gearbox, suspension, or chassis improvements you make. But even moving away from that point - the conversion itself is not straightforward at all, and will cost way more than the engine is worth. I'm only doing the 18RGTE conversion because i have already built a 400HP 18RGTE, and i intend to go drag racing with it. Even with all the serious upgrades i will be making to mine (engine, gearbox, tailshaft, brakes, diff, suspension, wheels, chassis) I would still sooner take a frontal lobotomy before contemplating towing a car trailer with my KE70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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