Which Engine To Choose?????

[rolla_93]

I'm trying to figure out which engine to put in a ke70 rolla.I'm tossing up between a 4A-GZE, 4A-GE 20V Blacktop, 21R-C or a 3S-GE(or turbo)?? I'm not sure if the celica motors fit or if the engine bay has to be overhauled to fit them. any help would be great guys/gals.

[xmoht]

I'm trying to figure out which engine to put in a ke70 rolla.I'm tossing up between a 4A-GZE, 4A-GE 20V Blacktop, 21R-C or a 3S-GE(or turbo)?? I'm not sure if the celica motors fit or if the engine bay has to be overhauled to fit them. any help would be great guys/gals.

 

They will all fit, they will all be expensive to fit, they will all go a lot faster than the stock motor. More help needed?

[Karllos]

Really all boils down to what you want the car for and how it to perform then choose the best suited, engine...

 

EG: if your after a decent streeter, then don't go too nuts maybe the GZE, track car 20V turbo or 3S-GTE...

 

Karl.

[Trev]

Should be mentioning your budget, if your handy with tools or if you are going to pay someone to do it, for a simple install go for the 16v.

[altezzaclub]

The newest most modern RWD layout you can find.

 

I'd like a Honda S2000, a Mazda MX5 or an Altezza 3SG-E. All fuel injected, high-revving and 6speeds.

[ke70dave]

Should be mentioning your budget, if your handy with tools or if you are going to pay someone to do it, for a simple install go for the 16v.

 

and your age, if your a P plater no engine conversion for you! (on the road anyway)

 

keep in mind my 16V conversion cost around 3k all up, that was with some very good bargains too.

 

engine conversions are not a cheap excercise.

[Brutus]

I'm trying to figure out which engine to put in a ke70 rolla.I'm tossing up between a 4A-GZE, 4A-GE 20V Blacktop, 21R-C or a 3S-GE(or turbo)?? I'm not sure if the celica motors fit or if the engine bay has to be overhauled to fit them. any help would be great guys/gals.

 

 

If you want to stay with normally aspirated go the 20v otherwise if you want a boosted engine go the 4agze. Their easy enough to fit and heaps of parts and mounting s available.

[rolla_93]

i talked to one of the guys i work with at toyota and he said they all fit but to get an ae71 because to put a 4A-GE or 4A-GZE you just gotta change the mounts. I'm just wndering how mucch (on average) it would be to chuck a 4A-GZE because even the standard 4A-GE has nearly as much as my daily drive (TP Mgna with 2.6 EFI) id prefer that extra bit of grunt.amd apparently the suprecharged is fairly easy to go turbo later on.

 

my budget on the engine will probably be about 2-3000. is this gonna be enough?

oh yea its gonna be my new daily drive btw

[xmoht]

i talked to one of the guys i work with at toyota and he said they all fit but to get an ae71 because to put a 4A-GE or 4A-GZE you just gotta change the mounts. I'm just wndering how mucch (on average) it would be to chuck a 4A-GZE because even the standard 4A-GE has nearly as much as my daily drive (TP Mgna with 2.6 EFI) id prefer that extra bit of grunt.amd apparently the suprecharged is fairly easy to go turbo later on.

 

my budget on the engine will probably be about 2-3000. is this gonna be enough?

oh yea its gonna be my new daily drive btw

 

Not sure of your location, a lot more 4AG*s on the mainland than in Tassie. Don't even need to change the mounts with the AE71, just pop it in. You'd definitely be able to put the engine in for 2-3000 dollars, especially if that budget doesn't include getting the car to start with.

 

I'd even say with that budget you could do the suspension and brake upgrades etc. that you need for roadworthy if you're patient and handy with a spanner (or know someone who is). If you want grunt definitely go the supercharged, good low end power.

 

Making them RWD from FWD isn't too much of a challenge and a few build threads should show you easily what you need to do. For your budget though you'd probably be able to even pick up a 4AGZE RWD half cut and then you're ready to go! Biggest thing is to read some build threads though so you know what you're in for. Good luck!

[Trev]

Not sure of your location, a lot more 4AG*s on the mainland than in Tassie. Don't even need to change the mounts with the AE71, just pop it in. You'd definitely be able to put the engine in for 2-3000 dollars, especially if that budget doesn't include getting the car to start with.

 

I'd even say with that budget you could do the suspension and brake upgrades etc. that you need for roadworthy if you're patient and handy with a spanner (or know someone who is). If you want grunt definitely go the supercharged, good low end power.

 

Making them RWD from FWD isn't too much of a challenge and a few build threads should show you easily what you need to do. For your budget though you'd probably be able to even pick up a 4AGZE RWD half cut and then you're ready to go! Biggest thing is to read some build threads though so you know what you're in for. Good luck!

 

No such thing as a RWD 4agze, 3k is pushing it for a 4agze and 20v, 16v is doable.

[rolla_93]

Not sure of your location, a lot more 4AG*s on the mainland than in Tassie. Don't even need to change the mounts with the AE71, just pop it in. You'd definitely be able to put the engine in for 2-3000 dollars, especially if that budget doesn't include getting the car to start with.

 

I'd even say with that budget you could do the suspension and brake upgrades etc. that you need for roadworthy if you're patient and handy with a spanner (or know someone who is). If you want grunt definitely go the supercharged, good low end power.

 

Making them RWD from FWD isn't too much of a challenge and a few build threads should show you easily what you need to do. For your budget though you'd probably be able to even pick up a 4AGZE RWD half cut and then you're ready to go! Biggest thing is to read some build threads though so you know what you're in for. Good luck!

cheers man that has helped heaps :wink:

but yea I'm in SA so it shudnt be too hard to pick up a 4A

ive already found a ke70 to buy so the car isnt a problem

do i have to do much modification to the crossmember tho to make the 4A fit tho?

[rolla_93]

oh yea and does anyone no how much a set of quad throttle bodies would be with trumpets?

[xmoht]

oh yea and does anyone no how much a set of quad throttle bodies would be with trumpets?

 

To buy them new you're looking at between 1500 - 2000 dollars. Probably get your engine in and the car going and everything then look at other mods you can do I reckon.

 

If you want low end power you'll get that with forced induction like turbo and supercharging. Quad throttle bodies are opening up more air flow so that's geared more towards high revving engines that are generally naturally aspirated. So in terms of 4AGEs and for simplicity sake, if you want quad throttle bodies and high end power with lots of revs go the 4AGE 20valve. If you want low end power so you're quick off the line and you can dorifto and go hooning around corners, go the 4AGZE.

[rolla_93]

ahh cheers mate :wink: