best thing to do is take it to a suspension shop, or one that deals with mainly leaf springs and talk to them man :yes:

 

Have you tried it????

 

Is that why it never had a drama for me or my mate when we had it out on track going stupid, btw go onto the archy drift prac nights thread in bris and there is a link to a video of the ef on archy :) with no dramas

I know work can make them for ya when they make or reset leaf springs. don't think they can make one without physically having the springs there. To get the right camber in the leaf, clip lengths, etc.

good to know they can be made up.

 

and justin, i've drifted ef/el's with stock suspension all around and it still worked. never said it don't work, i said it's got to much bodyroll for my liking, and it's the suspension and not the lack of aftermarket swaybars. glad you enjoyed the extra bodyroll, i however don't. hence why i spent a shitload on suspension with my old el and it had no bodyroll with the standard swaybars in. i've been sliding ef/el's since i was 18 and i'm 22 now. i know how well they can handle, and i know they are piss easy to make do what ya want them to. and also know how i personally like them setup.

fair enough man lets not get angry were all friends here :P

 

I'm just saying i never had a drama with it and the way i used to drift it was use the body roll to my advantage as i've only ever had cars with just springs and shocks in them and learnt to 'issac newton drift' them :yes: hahahhaa

'issac newton drift' them :yes: hahahhaa

 

Distant relation to Mr Scandinavian Flick?

Distant relation to Mr Scandinavian Flick?

 

 

very close relation to Mr Scandinavian Flick :cool:

 

the two work very closely, and on a good day even work together :yes:

Alright, I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents.

 

1. Tyre choice - You're gonna wanna get something half decent, otherwise you'll just understeer and with enough power there wont be enough grip to hold the slide. On the front a good fit is reccomended try not to stretch the tyre wall on the front...the flex will help with grip. Run a lower pressure. On the back strech the sidewall, sidewall flex will work against you also run a higher pressure to further avoid flex.

 

2. Suspension - Low is good, the closer to the ground you are, the lower your centre of gravity. Stiffer up front than the rear. A bit of roll in the ass will help to throw that back end out, especially if you don't have an abundance of power.

 

3. Engine - Another misconception in drift is that you need huge ammounts of power to drift (sure if you're planning on competing with Jake Jones or Beau Yates). Wrong, in a light car like a corolla, if you can pull over 100rwkw's you're well on your way.

 

Cam - You don't need anything too extravagant, just something to make power higher in the rev range.

 

Carby - Webber....enough said

 

Exhaust - Nice freeflowing, mild steel will do...try to get a straight through muffler.

 

Turbo - If your budget stretches that far, you could probably J-pipe a small turbo on...Don't expect to make too much boost but it all helps.

 

Radiator - Make sure your cooling system is reliable...You're gonna need a good one.

 

4. Diff - Locker, 4.11's if you aint planning on driving it on tshe road, maybe 3.9's. Lsd's just don't hack it as LSD's will not always turn both wheels.

 

5. Steering - More lock

 

6. A manual - Much easier if you've got a clutch to pop and you can select gears on demand.

 

7. A hydro handbrake

 

Please don't scold me if something doesn't make sense, I'm suffering insomnia it seems and haven't slept yet.

 

Tips on actually drifting.

 

Probably the most important part of the slide is the initial approach. The entry into a corner is where you'll spin or understeer 90% of the time. Entry speed is very important, it will take you alot of practice to determine the correct speed to enter a corner at.

 

The way I learnt and the way I found the easiest is to clutch kick. Head into the corner at below race speed. Clutch in...Revs up...Pop the clutch and really throw the car into the corner, hold that hammer down! (The reason for entering the corner below race speed is because, as soon as that clutch engages you're gonna start picking up speed).

Once you've got your angle, counter steer..if you have enough angle the car will bassically do this for you. (very hard to explain off the top of my head) you will have to use your throttle to steer the car from here, mind you grab the wheel as you may need to adjust slightly...it's all about feel (experience will help you with this).

 

The other way to get sideways is to handbrake. You'll need to enter the corner at above race speed (as soon as you yank the handbrake and the wheels lock up you're gonna lose alot of speed). Bassically the same theory, chuck the wheel in the direction you wanna go, counter steer, pop the clutch and let loose on those back tyres.

 

 

Drifting ain't cheap, there's no way around that.

Edited January 4, 201115 yr by Rich_Rolla

3. Engine - Another misconception in drift is that you need huge ammounts of power to drift (sure if you're planning on competing with Jake Jones or Beau Yates). Wrong, in a light car like a corolla, if you can pull over 100rwkw's you're well on your way.

 

100kw at the wheels in a corolla is a huge amount of power, approx 80 more horsepower then what your ke70 will put out.

fair enough man lets not get angry were all friends here :P

 

I'm just saying i never had a drama with it and the way i used to drift it was use the body roll to my advantage as i've only ever had cars with just springs and shocks in them and learnt to 'issac newton drift' them :yes: hahahhaa

 

 

Lol fair enough.

 

Go in a corner fast enough and ya don't need roll, just your front tires to grip or a handbrake that works lol.

haha thats what i was gonna say trev.

 

a bigport 4age is lucky to get you 70kw at the wheels.

 

100rwkw is a bit of a stretch on a lil k-motor.

 

nice write up otherwise rich rolla.

Was thinkin more ca18. But I didn't really think about the K motors lol.

but my car has 100000kws in the wet :lolcry:

Only when your stepdad hasnt confiscated the T18....

Only when your stepdad hasnt confiscated the T18....

 

:lolcry: oh snap hahahahahahaha

 

Oh matt the handbrake should work fine in the car too lol we adjusted it for archy and never changed it before we drove it down :D

i know the handbrake works good, and i know the mini spool works awesome lol. :wink: :dance:

Edited January 23, 201115 yr by wpn36