c budge Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 hey thats to all the people that have told me stuff sofa. um but i still need to know what i need to do. just like a quick help would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dude, you need to go talk to an engineer in real life...seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh what a nissan feeling! Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 yep, what he said. Its legal in QLD but that means f-all to you. It is also almost a bolt-in, less the clutch bit. Do a search on here, try 2T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozman Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 if your in melbourne you can look at mine, i've got a 3t-c in my ke55, there similar bottom ends (think ther the same) and thats the bit that counts, its not only the engine that you'll have to worry about though, there is the brakes and suspension, it wont get engineered with out them, you may even need some stuctural strengthening. hoppers stoppers do a brake kit for ke30,55 rollas, 300mm rotors, pbr calipers $1200, $1300 for slotted rotors, $1400 for sloted and cross drilled, plus $220 for new master cylinder. these will pass engineers in vic, but very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Do some bloody research. No one whats to help you because it sounds like you havent got 3/10s of a f@$king clue.... Research, show your research, ask sensible questions, WAIT for reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c budge Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 well i have been looking and i didnt really find anything thats why i'm asking and asking you guys is research.. so thats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 OK...so use a bit more detail than "what do I need to do"... I could sit here all night and type out a full and complete answer...but I wont and I'm sure no one else will either. Why don't you let us in on what YOU know already and ask SPECIFIC questions about what you need information on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c budge Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 What state do i live in? the act How handy am i mechanically? Anything can be made to fit i need to know how. Can i handle a 30 year old car with bulk horsepower? am i upgrading gearbox? yes am i upgrading diff?yes in time am i upgrading brakes? if i have 2 will i need hydraulic Clutch system.. do i need to do body work? what will need upgrading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I give up.... best of luck finding someone to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styler Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 (edited) dude......... its a lot of work even if you know a substantial amount about cars, its not just a weekend job with a friend helping out to put in 2 neons and a gearknob. thats what you are making this 3tgte conversion sound like. however in all your eagerness in sure i can educate you as i was long time planning a 3tgte into a ke25 and have spent a while getting all the gear and working the conversion out. a 3tgte into an old rolla is great as you do the most beneficial conversion, the capacity/weight category engine conversion. the max size turbo engine you can fit into one of these cars doing this method (which also requires safety upgrades such as brakes etc) is about a 1900cc engine according to the weights list of toyota corollas in the book. now hardly any turbo engines are 1900cc and so the closest engine you can fit is the 1.8 3tgte or 1.8 ca18det. the 3tgte is almost a bolt in fit which is great but it fits better if mounted properly. the gearbox can be a t50 which will bolt in or a w55 which came with most 3tgte's. the 3tgte is easier to put in compared to the ca18det. however..... that sounds all sweet and the information you are looking for is below, these are the factors you have to consider that everyone has been trying to tell you! 1st the car - good choice of car:) 2nd your 1st car turbo rocket - bad choice 3rd 3tgte - expensive, expensive parts $150!!! for a dizzy rotor!!! pistons are cast, will hold 12psi with std ecu will hold 14psi well tuned need forged for 15psi+ ecu is ancient in technology, but some people have made it work well or replace with delco, tuning is expensive for delco though ct26 turbo from 7mgte supra is easily adapted to fit exhaust manifold is a bad design only custom avaliable as far as i know - about $400 - $800 unless a 3tc one is avaliable its bolt in with t series engine mounts, under average fit. bolt in with crossmember mounts cut and moved slightly - good fit. gearbox t50 wont last too long unless babied gearbox w55 will last much better, a bellhousing for a 3tgte goes for a few hundred bucks. a gearbox and housing is rare and goes for more as you can imagine. diff wont last unless you granny around town. stronger diffs used are the following : r31 diff/ falcon borg warner diff/ toyota g series (hilux is a g series) / toyota f series/ toyota t series / alfa/ volvo/ fiat 124... expect $800 - $3000 to convert it. with that much power you need a BIG brake upgrade and its a legal requirement, BIG brake = big rotors, big calipers, lines, mounting plates... = big $$ custom exhaust few hundred $, custom dump pipe too. may use original ecu, which purchased seperately if you only bought the long motor, is about $500 second hand aftermarket ecu + wiring + sensors = $1500 to get someone to wire it up = $600 to get someone to tune it = $500 - $2000 oversize forged pistons $900 delivered, $400 fitted gaskets - hell expensive motor manual for it = non - existant, except in japanese, but it is very similar to the 2tg so the 2tg manual can be used for quite a lot of the specs needed. its a twin spark which it more hassle than its worth, damn twin spark nonsense!!! it does share a select few common parts with the t series motors so some menial parts may be cheap. custom driveshaft or mod the original one body work - rust cut / weld new metal, panelbeat, paint $1000 - $10000 new wheels/tyres?, seats front?, retrim rears?, new carpet?, steering wheel? etc hydraulic clutch, master, slave, pedal box custom mod to suit = $300 mod plate / engineer approved= $400? I'm not sure on mod plate costs now who is doing all this work? that is my question. you if you are technically minded = 6 months part time/casual workshop = $3000 at least just for labour you would need a lot of knowledge, mechanical skills and tools to do as much as you could of the above not to mention patience and to double the original price you thought the project was gonna cost (it always turns out to cost double lol). and then pay workshops to do stuff you can't, balance components and bore the block etc... so now you may understand why you need to think about this conversion more on another note .......young driver, 1st car turbo beast, never ever ever get insurance, wild turbo rolla on the road! thats just a recipe for disaster! a much better idea: step 1 get a awesome ke30, look around a lot, pay a few hundred more for a spectacular one rather than $300 for a dented rust bucket that isnt worth anything. to fix a few dents and cut rust will cost way more than paying a few hundred extra step 2 cut out rust, beat, paint, get mechanicals A1. step 3 suspension, wheels, carpet, seats. step 3 2tg step 4 work the 2tg or do a turbo conversion Edited July 10, 2006 by styler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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