BUZ440 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 then you get into the debate of power to weight, zippy cars like ours shoot off so quick by the time some of the 8's reel you in, dinner is served cause after that traction issues from so much power did i open a can of worms? Haha Quote
t18drifts Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 power weight ratio is super important in my eyes and cornering Quote
irokin Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 :hmm: what a Ferrari donk ?? :huh: Or the likes Quadcam V8 SR20 stroker ;) Quote
towe001 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 1UZs are plenty affordable, the later ones came with VVTi and are awesomely good for their size. Yep, i'd sooner the 1uz over the 1j or what ever the twin turbo 6 banger is in the soarer/supra. But when you think of it the 1uz isn't as techno advanced as the 4's (or at least the last time i read up on it) then you get into the debate of power to weight, zippy cars like ours shoot off so quick by the time some of the 8's reel you in, dinner is served cause after that traction issues from so much power did i open a can of worms? Haha But when you start throwing in fly by wire (electronic throttle), spark control, injection control, vvti, variable vane turbos. All that monster torque really starts being controlled. And then throw in the control on the brakes yadda yadda you also get something with incredible turn-in response. EG that Porsche SUV thing, when you turn into a corner the inside rear brake is used to help the bus turn reducing understeer. But from what from i've read on the LS1 its not a bad motor on its own right. Damn it when am i going to get my hobby lathe :bash: Quote
towe001 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 Quadcam V8 SR20 stroker ;) Good on ya :poke: lol Quote
irokin Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 Good on ya :poke: lol I'm serious, it looks like this (but still in the donor car): Good for 1200hp with a freshen up, valve springs and turbos. Quote
ke70dave Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 Yep, i'd sooner the 1uz over the 1j or what ever the twin turbo 6 banger is in the soarer/supra. But when you think of it the 1uz isn't as techno advanced as the 4's (or at least the last time i read up on it) the J series of motors are quite decent though. ive been reading up on them alot lately (in my quest to buy a chaser, anyone wanna buy a s15?). The later model 1j, single turbo, vvti (continuously variable, not on/off like many), and it being over square gives it that rev happy characteristic. not to mention the sound, jeez the J engines sound good. 1uz is 87.5 mm and stroke of 82.5 mm, so over square as well. giving it the same rev happy characteristic. but the 1uz is a 4L, and the J is only a 2.5 (or 3L for the 2j). can't realllly compare them. ive just read up on ferrari donks...yeah whole other leage. Quote
BUZ440 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 power weight ratio is super important in my eyes and cornering Agree, the ammount of times i have got the jump on some cars, But don't get me wrong some of them sound so good, its all good fun IMO Quote
kickn5k Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 I'm serious, it looks like this (but still in the donor car): Good for 1200hp with a freshen up, valve springs and turbos. WGMG irokin has a vh45!!! Nah more jelous than anything. Stu. Quote
irokin Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 Its kinda pointless arguing about it really. There's nothing amazing about either side, its all a trade off. Want capacity? live with the weight. Want lightness? live with the low capacity. Throw engine loyalty out the door if you really want to win. Analyse what you need to win and use that. The WTAC results are interesting though, two turbo 4cyls followed by a rotary, two more turbo 4s, straight 6, turbo 4, rotary, V6, turbo 4. More than half the Top 10 is turbo 4cyl. The fastest V8 that's been at the event was 6 seconds slower than the 10th position 4cyl (I noticed they didn't come back this year). But that just means they suck (at the moment) at outright one lap circuit speed. The distribution would be completely different at a drag meet or speed trial event. Quote
irokin Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 WGMG irokin has a vh45!!! Nah more jelous than anything. Stu. I love the engine to bits, but I don't have anything to put it into. The Silvias almost track ready again so I don't really want to f@$k that up. Glorious sounding engine though, I caught my father starting it and revving it one weekend :P I thought about buying a cheap auto NA 300ZX and building him a retirement car but I haven't got enough dosh to do that at the moment. I need to get rid of the car though because I need the space for a trailer so I might just strip the engine and transmission and store it for later. Quote
irokin Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 Amazon sent my books to the future :( Arrival Scan - September 2, 2030 11:52:32 AM Anyone got a DeLorean I can borrow? Quote
carbonboy Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 WGMG - House hunting, 6+ years of peaceful living arrangements come to an end. There's always plenty of options around when you don't need 'em! :( Also, being called a liar, without the person directly saying "you're a liar". Quote
towe001 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 Amazon sent my books to the future :( Arrival Scan - September 2, 2030 11:52:32 AM Holy heck, hope you don't need them to soon. Anyone got a DeLorean I can borrow? Ask JiP he use to have one stalking him back at his parents place. I want a mini mill damn it Quote
irokin Posted September 22, 2011 Report Posted September 22, 2011 Argghhh I hate this mouse. Its suddenly gotten an acceleration added to it for no apparent reason. I like my mouses linear, none of this stupid "oh we'll help you move FASSSSSTTTT". Its as bad as those bloody awful Razer mouses. Quote
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