shauns ke30 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 hey all I'm just doing some work on the ke30 eg. new balljoints, front bearing's, disks and pads i went to the the brake and clutch shop and got some new rotors for the rolla had to get them orded in but some how the bloke got the wrong one's he got ke55 rotors and he reckons the ke55 rotors are a 1mm bigger then the ke30 rotors??? will they still fit on my ke30 struts and caliper??? or do i need to put the ke55 calipers on?? sorry just another stupid question :) cheers shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob83ke70 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 there are sumitomo's pbr's and girlock calipers.... two different types of disc, I thought the thickness was the only difference. I could be wrong though. Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towe001 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Looking through my copy of the DBA catalogue and yep their different. The KE's that had the sumitomo calipers uses rotors of a 10mm thickness where as the girlock calipers are 12.7mm thick. Both ke3x and early '5x used both. The late '55 and '70 used the girlock caliper. Wheel bearings are the same and the bolt points for the calipers are the same. So in a way if you can go the girlocks go the girlocks for a slight upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 The Girlocks will hardly give you a noticable difference over the sumitomos. Just use the '55 rotors with the sumi's, just push the piston back in the extra couple of mm you need with a G-clamp. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono1986 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Can you buy the girlocks from sprint auto's or something, or is the only option of getting them from another car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shauns ke30 Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Looking through my copy of the DBA catalogue and yep their different. The KE's that had the sumitomo calipers uses rotors of a 10mm thickness where as the girlock calipers are 12.7mm thick.Both ke3x and early '5x used both. The late '55 and '70 used the girlock caliper. Wheel bearings are the same and the bolt points for the calipers are the same. So in a way if you can go the girlocks go the girlocks for a slight upgrade. wooo nice thanks for the info :blush: but got me think so i can just bolt girlocks on with no mods???? i can get these cheap :) at the moment it has sumitomo on it? and and and i head some think about bandix holden rear sport pads!!!! fit on the front of ke**'s???? do these pads fit both girlocks and sumitomo?? any one no the part number?? or what kinda holden are they off?? :) looks like ill be putting some more stuff in the KB/FAQ :) CHEERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) and and and i head some think about bandix holden rear sport pads!!!! fit on the front of ke**'s????do these pads fit both girlocks and sumitomo?? any one no the part number?? or what kinda holden are they off?? The rear pads from a VN Commodore fit into the late Girlock calipers, they're not the same part number but are essentially the same, just slightly thicker (you need to push the piston alllll the way back into the caliper). Stock KE part number is DB1086, the Commodore part number is DB1088 Edited February 9, 2010 by Hiro Protagonist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiP Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Not a surprise they started using girlocks around the time they started using GM trimatics. BTW the girlocks were first used in the coupes before made available to all of the corollas with the late KE55's. I may be wrong but I was once told you'll need KE55 backing plates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curly Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 The rear pads from a VN Commodore fit into the late Girlock calipers, they're not the same part number but are essentially the same, just slightly thicker (you need to push the piston alllll the way back into the caliper). Stock KE part number is DB1086, the Commodore part number is DB1088 early commodre rear pads are db1086 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shauns ke30 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) The rear pads from a VN Commodore fit into the late Girlock calipers, they're not the same part number but are essentially the same, just slightly thicker (you need to push the piston alllll the way back into the caliper). Stock KE part number is DB1086, the Commodore part number is cheers :yes: thank you jip!!! (I may be wrong but I was once told you'll need KE55 backing plates?) are you 100% sure :wink: if so when i go down ill get the backing plates too save me going back again Edited February 10, 2010 by shauns ke30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan G Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 i tried vn commo rear brakes in the front of my 55, theres hardly any difference in surface area but i also discovered they sit closer to the inside on the rotor (theres about 4mm gap from top of the pad and the top of the rotor) ill draw a pic if anyone can't understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shauns ke30 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ pic sounds good :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan G Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^pic sounds good :wink: it just moves the pad in toward the hub more, don't waste your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) are you 100% sure :( if so when i go down ill get the backing plates too save me going back again Nah you don't need the backing plates. bolt spacing and everything is the same. One thing that is different between the sumi and Girlock caliper though is the end of the brake line where it goes into the caliper. One has a normal flair and the other has an inverted flair. If you try and screw the wrong one in tight you'll actually crack the casting of the caliper like I once did!! :wink: it just moves the pad in toward the hub more, don't waste your time Evan, Evan, Evan. :yes: The whole point of using commo pads instead of corolla ones is the fact that it opens up a much better choice of better performing pads. You can't get pads like Bendix Ultimates for a corolla, only generic normal road use ones. Edited February 10, 2010 by Taz_Rx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gslrallysport Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) You can't get pads like Bendix Ultimates for a corolla, only generic normal road use ones. Sure can. And a whole lot better: http://www.qfmperformance.com/ http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showtopic=36000 Edited February 11, 2010 by gslrallysport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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