Thanks Kangaroos,

 

That's what i have on mine Sumitomo's,

 

And i take it Nick that girlocks are found on Ke55's too right?

 

Cheers ill let you know how the conversion goes.

Thanks Kangaroos,

 

That's what i have on mine Sumitomo's,

 

And i take it Nick that girlocks are found on Ke55's too right?

 

Cheers ill let you know how the conversion goes.

No worries.

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there are two types of early jap calipers, they interchange. the mounts and hoses are the same for both, i believe they even use the same pads? only the body of the caliper itself is different

 

and they both suck, upgrade to ke55/70 girlock calipers if you can

yeah man wreckers should only ask $30 bucks for the weight prolly aint worth it

you need to swap the discs and calipers as a pair. jap calipers go with jap discs, girlock calipers go with girlock discs

you need to swap the discs and calipers as a pair. jap calipers go with jap discs, girlock calipers go with girlock discs

Thanks Jamie.

On another side note here. When i get my hands on a set of Girlock calipers, is there much to recondition/replace on them if they are worn? OR do i just keep looking for a good condition set. (i have never played around with brakes so i don't know much about the internals). Old corollas are getting VERY rare in my area, so i can't be picky as I don't have alot to choose from.

a pair of seal kits should set you back 50 bucks. piston ring seal, rubber caps for sliders, new high tensile bridge bolts. i used to have a part number, but any brake shop should be able to look them up for you, just look under ke70

 

get some graphite grease (aka: engine assembly lube) to lubricate the moving sliders with

 

the only thing that really goes wrong with the calipers is that the pistons rust around where they're supposed to seal against the ring. i believe you can buy new pistons, but you would be cheaper to just buy whole ke70s off ebay and steal the brakes off them, then re-sell them

 

you need to shave 1.2mm off a single db1088 (vn commodore) pad to make it a db1086 (ke70) pad

 

 

girlock calipers also give you a wider selection of wheels, as they don't have that stupid pokey out fin that the sumitomo calipers have. the wheels on my ke25 required spacers with sumitomos, but bolted onto hub with girlocks

 

fyi, you can just cut that fin off if you like, cafee's done it to his ke30 for wheel clearance. i can't remember what akebono calipers look like

Not much thats user serviceable, just find a pair and bolt them on :jamie:

i would be inclined to kit any second hand calipers i bought unless i was well aware of their history for the past several years. the ability of your car to stop is worth lots more than 50 bucks, a couple of hours of time, and a bit of brake fluid. cheap insurance really

the earlier calipers are a lot easier to change pads. i wouldn't think the later discs would be that much better, they are still the same diameter, just a little thicker (a little less fade resistant). you would be better off getting the brakes off an ae71 panelvan or an ae86.

 

i knew a guy who shaved the fins off his ke30 calipers for wheel clearance. he had no problems at all.

ae86 brakes don't bolt to ke1/2/3/5/7 corolla stuff. nowhere near it. and the strut base is a different pattern, so you can't just bolt in ae86 struts either

 

hey you just reminded me i have aussie ae86 struts with brakes in the garage, and ae86 power steer arms from new zealand. well how about that, there's my van's brake upgrade :jamie:

according to the DBA disc catalog, the ae86 discs are the same part number as on an ae71 panel van. has the same center hole as all earlier ke corollas. maybe they have it wrong.....

i dunno about sizes, but ae86 discs have a hole in the actual disc hat, and the thread is in the hub. opposite to corollas. the flange is also only a few mm thick at that point, so you couldn't even tap it enough to hold onto a ke corolla hub reliably. the rotor bolt pcd is also different

Aight, i might just shave a bit off,

 

It's a useless pokey piece of steel as superjamie said,

 

I'll get pics tomorrow of my calipers on my Ke55 to make sure there girlocks,

 

Cheers everyone for clearing that up for me,

 

Trent

Oh btw i just found this on toymods

 

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~bradw/callipers.html

  i dunno about sizes, but ae86 discs have a hole in the actual disc hat, and the thread is in the hub. opposite to corollas. the flange is also only a few mm thick at that point, so you couldn't even tap it enough to hold onto a ke corolla hub reliably. the rotor bolt pcd is also different

 

i think you will find that ke30, ke70, ae71, and ae86 all use the same wheel bearing kits.

I suspect that "fin" is there to prevent any flex in the caliper, but that said without it it'll most definately still work, maybe not as well as it should but it'll work.

 

Brake calipers aren't hard to kit. The only hard bit is trying to put the pistons back in with the new seal... That usually takes awhile.