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Honda V-Tech Into Ke25

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Just wondering if anyone has ever done a V-tech conversion into any of the KE's and if use think it would be a good idea?

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  • V-TEC YO!!!!!     (that is all)

  • You are looking to put this in a 40 year old car, with leaf springs and standard front discs that are a hand span across.   Front strut, front brakes will need upgrade. Brake master wil need upgrade

I think there was one done but cannot remember what it was.

 

Best to use S2000 running gear.

A type R, 140ish kw. You got the $'s to do it? It would end up costing much more than the power is worth. And.....bugger honda. I do like the type R's though :rolls: Vtec is very over rated in my opinion.

I'm a vtec fan. Do it!

Just wondering if anyone has ever done a V-tech conversion into any of the KE's and if use think it would be a good idea?

There's been a thread or two on the subject.

The typical early honda motor spins anti-clockwise.

More then likely you'll have to make custom bellhousing cause all bar two, the F20 and F22 from the S2000, are east-west only designed motors.

 

http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-maintenance/some-engines-turn-counterclockwise-46572/

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2557095

 

Good idea with thinking outside the box but i'd say it'll be expensive to go honda.

haven't seen in any KE's but i have seen two put into ae86s. one in the US and one in NZ. both using s2000 gear.

A type R, 140ish kw. You got the $'s to do it? It would end up costing much more than the power is worth. And.....bugger honda. I do like the type R's though :rolls: Vtec is very over rated in my opinion.

 

care to elaborate?

 

VTEC is quite possibly the greatest achievement in allowing an engine to have more power, while retaining great drivability in lower revs.

 

why do you think its over rated?

 

incorporating 2 or 3 camlobes for the valve train is a brilliant idea, allowing higher duration AND (most importantly) higher LIFT at high RPM's. the early vtec engines had that definate "Switch", but the later models are continuously variable valve timing, unsure how its done exactly, but its pretty damn awesome.

 

most engine manufacturers are using the idea of variable valve timing these days, but my understanding is most (if not all) do not incorporate higher lift.

 

in MY oppinion haters of vtec are those that don't understand how good it is....

 

a honda engine would be brilliant idea in RWD, but might be a challenge finding a RWD gearbox to suit. I'm sure you could machine up a chunky adaptor for it though, been done before on other engine/gearbox combos.

I would agree the F20 and gear would be a good starting point, and highest reving NA 2L motor

 

VTEC kick is a nifty piece of gear and although does not come on strong, good poke and handy on fuel,

 

slap a turbo and a VTEC controller and watch the wonders come together

 

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Nice fit,

 

looks to be enough clearance for right hand drive cars

i remember reading the main drama with that engine was the exhaust being on the drivers side, so you need some funky extractors to clear all the stearing gear. especially important with steering boxes etc in the old ke's.

 

I'm sure anything is doable, have a look at beerhead's extractors he made, they look awesome.

 

which is why its "more popular" in the US since the steering is on the other side.

 

ps. that is a brilliant looking car, just needs a parker lense! (or whatever is usally beside the headlight)

care to elaborate?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC. I'm aware that how the valve timing and lift control of the vtec is revoloutionary, and its an awesome and well functioning system. Take into account a 140/150kw hona vtec halfcut/ engine package will set you back about $6000 (the prices ive been able to find), then to mate it to a rwd gearbox probably with an adaptor made up, then all the other normal engine conversion stuffarounds. Half of this could be spent for example an SR20det conversion with more power (not the same power curve), already with the rwd gearbox etc. Also check out the vtec V6's (199kw/271hp). I reckon it would be cool to see a vtec powered corolla, but i personally would invest in something else.

1st question - Why a Honda engine??

2nd question - How much money, time, patience do you have?

3rd question - What car would you put it into, if you had the chance

4th question - WHY A HONDA MOTOR

 

 

and now a did you know - did you know that all honda motors spin counter clockwise Except the s2000 engine

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and now a did you know - did you know that all honda motors spin counter clockwise Except the s2000 engine

 

yeah there is that...

 

i always wondered about the posibility of flipping over a differential to combat that issue. would be a pretty custom job thats for sure. but you would be getting a custom diff probably anyway..

 

unsure what effect this would have on oil delivery to the gears, probably not ideal. Or if diff gears are designed to be driven one direction, and if you drive them in "reverse" for an extended period of time is that bad for it?

 

who knows...lots of issues to think about here.

yeah there is that...

 

i always wondered about the posibility of flipping over a differential to combat that issue. would be a pretty custom job thats for sure. but you would be getting a custom diff probably anyway..

 

unsure what effect this would have on oil delivery to the gears, probably not ideal. Or if diff gears are designed to be driven one direction, and if you drive them in "reverse" for an extended period of time is that bad for it?

 

who knows...lots of issues to think about here.

 

Yeah I think that's why Honda motors except for the s2000 motor stay in Honda's, simply because of the amount of custom shit you would need to make to counter Honda's clever idea of making there motors spin backwards :bash:

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