KE ping it real Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 what grade steel? I'll have to get back to you on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh what a nissan feeling! Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Most bolt on spacers are made of alloy, very bad if you have any sort of power. You can buy ones made properly out of the right grade steel, but just one costs about as much as 4 alloy ones. On a 1300cc corolla i would probably use them, but its just as easy to buy wheels that fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Id probably make them out of tool steel or even spring steel because it can be hardend. Might be a bit more expensive but id get wheels that fit in the first place :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbey Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 most cars 70's onwards i have seen have spigots on the hubs front and rear. Yeh, I've never seen a car that doesnt have spigots on the front. Yeah the ones i'm looking at are 25mm thick and billet with the hub centric section so based on what everyone has said, these should be the best of the bolt on spacers i guess :P 25mm thick, thats pretty huge. Are your studs long enough? Because you can buy the best spacers in the world but if you only have 3 threads per nut engaging that'd be chaos. Id probably make them out of tool steel or even spring steel because it can be hardend. Might be a bit more expensive but id get wheels that fit in the first place :P No need for tool steel, a lot of money for the wrong properties. Personally I wouldnt mess with spacers, hubcentric or not... just buy the right rims the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KE ping it real Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) 25mm thick, thats pretty huge. Are your studs long enough? Because you can buy the best spacers in the world but if you only have 3 threads per nut engaging that'd be chaos. Yeah they have a recessed section for the nut to sit in and these wheels will probably only be on for a year or so until i have enough coin to get the Simmons that i really want but at $654 per rim plus tyres, i'll have to save a little :P Edited October 10, 2008 by KE ping it real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ke30Rolla myles Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 this is what mine look like i painted them black do the old bill don't see them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KE ping it real Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Same as the ones i'm looking at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLO-030 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 No need for tool steel, a lot of money for the wrong properties. Personally I wouldnt mess with spacers, hubcentric or not... just buy the right rims the first time. Thats just me tho, plenty of it at work. but alot more spring steel. I'm with ya on getting the right wheels tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas_ae71 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 umm buy he wheels that fit ay.. well consider this for a minute, i have jap wheels with a small positive offset. they are still resonably priced without being taxed insanely. now yes they do fit okay as they are but they don't fill my flared guards.. now i could sell them and spend $800 on another pair or i can simply use some bolt on spacers that i have sitting here nice and handy. which option seems to make the most sence? overly expensive negative offset wheels or wheels that already fit hence they only need 25mm bolt on spacers. philby i think your where thinking slip on spacers. depends on how thick the wheel is from nut to hub. i have cheviots which haev a really thick part from nut to the hub and i also have some starsharks which have a very small thickness. it just another way for the manufacturer to add a bit more offset to the wheel i guess also i don't think that spacers are for everyone, mums and dads who just want a set of mags on there car don't need them, but someone who is trying to get more track, aesthetics or that actually work on there car then they maybe an option to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KE ping it real Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 ^^^^^^^^^^ Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfunkt Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 or wheels that already fit hence they only need 25mm bolt on spacers. just taking this out of context because the rest of what you said was really positive.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbey Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 yeh whoops, should have read the "bolt on" bit in the title. funny as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 The wrong offset also increases your scrub radius, which is bad. Clicky click here and read and learn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeLJ Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 umm buy he wheels that fit ay.. well consider this for a minute, i have jap wheels with a small positive offset. they are still resonably priced without being taxed insanely. now yes they do fit okay as they are but they don't fill my flared guards.. now i could sell them and spend $800 on another pair or i can simply use some bolt on spacers that i have sitting here nice and handy. which option seems to make the most sence? overly expensive negative offset wheels or wheels that already fit hence they only need 25mm bolt on spacers. philby i think your where thinking slip on spacers. depends on how thick the wheel is from nut to hub. i have cheviots which haev a really thick part from nut to the hub and i also have some starsharks which have a very small thickness. it just another way for the manufacturer to add a bit more offset to the wheel i guess also i don't think that spacers are for everyone, mums and dads who just want a set of mags on there car don't need them, but someone who is trying to get more track, aesthetics or that actually work on there car then they maybe an option to look at. nice logic. Buy cheap spacers from ebay to save money, bolt them up, have a wheel come lose while cornering and die in a fiery inferno.... and another note According to an article in Street Machine they are not legal in any state, they are definitely not legal in WA. If you have an accident as a result of using the hub adaptors and survive, your insurance company will not pay for your vehicle or any damage you do to other vehicles or property. something with a similar design to this- would be the best option as they put the majority of the load onto the centra hub rather then the studs. but the fact remains spacers and adaptors no matter how well made are not not legal in any state that has adopted the NCOP. The only exception is factory fitted spacers used on some models (eg porches) If you want to increase the spacing on the front discs then you can get hubs made to suit your intended application. In the end, its your car, so do what you want, but personally, Id be spending the extra money on the correct wheels. Its alot of "what ifs" but the major one is "what if I have an accident and kill someone" your insurance company will bail out on you as soon as they look into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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