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Jul 29 2010, 09:59 PM
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![]() Common Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 130 Joined: 27-April 08 From: Brissie, Wakerley Member No.: 5655 Last Active: 1st September 2010 - 09:31 AM |
I don’t think I have ever been asked a question so many times when people ask me if I’m going to put a 4AGE or a 3SGE, “why would you put a Hilux donk in an AE71” Good point.
So after hours of research and a few helpful words of wisdom I have come to the conclusion that a 3RZ-FE (2.7 ltr, 4cyl) Hilux motor is the one for my old girl. Plans: basically I will be aiming to make a quick, reliable streeter that will occasionally see the odd strip run an maybe a power cruse or two. Backing up to the 3RZ will be a W58 box with strengthened 1st 2nd 3rd so hopefully we don’t have too much stripping, Dog gears would have been nice but after talking to a few people it at various transmission specialists it seems it is very hard to get them for the w58. From the box to the diff I will be looking into getting an aftermarket tail shaft, as for the diff i am still undecided, I have been told to just go with the Tarago diff but I have also been told to go with a Hilux diff..... As for stoppage and handling I am really really unsure, I was going to go with the s13 Silvia front en gear but as it widens the front end track of your car I have opted out for this setup, I don’t really want to drift it so the Silvia gear is out the windy man. I have been thinking of maybe upgrading the front calipers and converting some AE86 struts to coilovers or then again I might just speak to the guys at AJPS....... Bushing will all be replaced and new superpro urethane bushes will be pressed back in place along with new wheel bearings. The 3rz will be getting all new internals with forged rods an pistons an while I'm down there the big end bearings will be replace too, valves and valve spring will all be upgraded as well, I will be looking at running a nice sized front mount intercooler (nothing wanky that says “look at me I have a turbo” and doesn’t attract too much heat). All my creature comforts/interior will stay the way with the addition of a couple of gauges an a nice pair of seats. Progress:
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-------------------- Plenty of 4ac bits, PM what you need
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Jul 29 2010, 10:32 PM
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![]() Known Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 591 Joined: 11-March 06 Member No.: 1338 Last Active: Today, 12:26 PM |
Are you planning on regoing this?
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Jul 29 2010, 10:37 PM
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![]() Regular Poster (Caption Editable Now) ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 74 Joined: 20-January 10 From: Far North QLD Member No.: 10153 Last Active: Yesterday, 08:37 PM |
I take it that you have discussed your plans with an engineer before you have even started, as it could save you a lot of $$$ and heartache.
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Jul 29 2010, 11:08 PM
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![]() Hachi Ni ![]() Group: Donor Posts: 4156 Joined: 19-March 06 From: Ipswich, Qld Member No.: 1373 Last Active: Today, 01:26 PM Real Name: Trev |
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Jul 30 2010, 12:08 AM
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![]() ^^^is poor and thats why he drives a rolla ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 1311 Joined: 4-December 08 From: At your house drinking your beer Member No.: 7244 Last Active: Today, 10:52 AM |
Very nice choice of engine mate, the 3rz's are very under rated for what they are, as curly has proved and many people before him i'd imagine have proved they are a very capable motor, best of luck with it all, i wouldn't mind coming to have a wee sticky beak at this when you have the motor in the car. Best of luck, oh and for a diff selection have you ever considered a ef/el falcon diff? That is what i will be using in my ca18det ke70, all you would need to do would be to shorten the diff, as they already have disk brakes and a handbrake cable so you have the best of both worlds all in one diff
-------------------- THE BLACK PEARL
PSIFED36 The death of a 4K is in other words as spectacular as the experience of accelerating a 4K car itself :P QUOTE ("Rollin - boostedfalon.net") You need to learn about the chain of command my friend. The chain of command is the chain you beat c*nts with until they figure out who's in command :) |
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Jul 30 2010, 08:10 AM
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![]() Common Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 130 Joined: 27-April 08 From: Brissie, Wakerley Member No.: 5655 Last Active: 1st September 2010 - 09:31 AM |
Are you planning on regoing this? Hey mate, yes i will be registering it. I take it that you have discussed your plans with an engineer before you have even started, as it could save you a lot of $$$ and heartache. All the best with your plans Hey, yeah i have spoken with an engineer. Very nice choice of engine mate, the 3rz's are very under rated for what they are, as curly has proved and many people before him i'd imagine have proved they are a very capable motor, best of luck with it all, i wouldn't mind coming to have a wee sticky beak at this when you have the motor in the car. Best of luck, oh and for a diff selection have you ever considered a ef/el falcon diff? That is what i will be using in my ca18det ke70, all you would need to do would be to shorten the diff, as they already have disk brakes and a handbrake cable so you have the best of both worlds all in one diff hey Justin, no i haven't thought of using an EF/EL diff, good call though thanks. yeah mate more than welcome to have a look when its done or when ever mate. Cheers, Ben Trav, my words exactly mate, i have actually spoken with curly and been to see that weapon of mass destruction...... This post has been edited by Stixy: Jul 30 2010, 08:15 AM -------------------- Plenty of 4ac bits, PM what you need
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Jul 30 2010, 08:19 AM
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Known Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 641 Joined: 22-November 06 Member No.: 2532 Last Active: Today, 01:38 PM |
sounds like an interesting build mate!
give me a yell if you need a hand swinging some spanners! -------------------- ![]() |
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Jul 30 2010, 08:27 AM
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Known Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 565 Joined: 12-August 07 From: brisbane Member No.: 4088 Last Active: Today, 04:56 AM |
As we have talked about ealier, i would definately talk to an engineer before you start spending money, if you do it then use the excuse of " well he did it " you could be in for a huge shock, what was legal and what is legal are completely two different things, TALK TO AN ENGINEER, Plan it properly
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Jul 30 2010, 09:35 PM
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![]() Undertakers Yard 18-0 at wrestlemania ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 374 Joined: 4-May 09 From: south west brisbane Member No.: 8250 Last Active: Yesterday, 10:24 PM |
As we have talked about ealier, i would definately talk to an engineer before you start spending money, if you do it then use the excuse of " well he did it " you could be in for a huge shock, what was legal and what is legal are completely two different things, TALK TO AN ENGINEER, Plan it properly good words there rod and yea this should be an awsome build good luck and hope there its another one on the road as justin has mentioned i 2 have seen and been in rods corolla and damm words can not describe this efforts he has gone to to build his every time i see it that car amazes me -------------------- toyota fan for life
current rides 1980 ke55 coupe the daily 1975 ta22 celica in the build previous rides 1999 AU ford falcon futura 1967 VE valiant regal wrestling thread go here http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showtopic=44402 |
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Jul 31 2010, 11:05 PM
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![]() Known Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 591 Joined: 11-March 06 Member No.: 1338 Last Active: Today, 12:26 PM |
Wouldnt have thought this engine is legal in a rolla.
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Jul 31 2010, 11:36 PM
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![]() ^^^is poor and thats why he drives a rolla ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 1311 Joined: 4-December 08 From: At your house drinking your beer Member No.: 7244 Last Active: Today, 10:52 AM |
-------------------- THE BLACK PEARL
PSIFED36 The death of a 4K is in other words as spectacular as the experience of accelerating a 4K car itself :P QUOTE ("Rollin - boostedfalon.net") You need to learn about the chain of command my friend. The chain of command is the chain you beat c*nts with until they figure out who's in command :) |
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Aug 1 2010, 10:11 AM
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![]() damn, where am I? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 1059 Joined: 16-July 05 From: sunshine coast Member No.: 687 Last Active: Yesterday, 07:23 PM |
If an ae71 weighs over approx 1070kg it will be fine. weight of vehicle x 2.5. |
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Aug 1 2010, 10:14 AM
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![]() Known Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 591 Joined: 11-March 06 Member No.: 1338 Last Active: Today, 12:26 PM |
If an ae71 weighs over approx 1070kg it will be fine. weight of vehicle x 2.5. Which equals 2675. From what i understand the 3rzfe is a 2.7L then + a turbo QUOTE (WIKIPEDIA) 3RZ-FE
The 3RZ-FE is a 2.7 L (2693 cc) I4 version built in Japan. Bore is 95 mm and stroke is 95 mm. Output is 150 hp (112 kW) at 4800 RPM with 177 ft·lbf (240 N·m) of torque at 4000 RPM. This engine features twin, chain-driven balance shafts. It has four valves per cylinder and DOHC. Valve adjustment is by shim over bucket. This post has been edited by cuzzo: Aug 1 2010, 10:16 AM |
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Aug 1 2010, 11:44 AM
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![]() damn, where am I? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 1059 Joined: 16-July 05 From: sunshine coast Member No.: 687 Last Active: Yesterday, 07:23 PM |
sorry, my maths is bad.... 1080kgs then, that is with a turbo, without a turbo it is weight x 3.
If the car is over 1100 kg it is sweet by lots, as the rules of obove 1100 kgs are different. |
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Aug 1 2010, 12:06 PM
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Known Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regular Member Posts: 565 Joined: 12-August 07 From: brisbane Member No.: 4088 Last Active: Today, 04:56 AM |
can anyone confirm the the weight of a ae71 auto sedan
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