350 Chev Into A Ke30 Sedan

[Trev]

We sell crate motors at work, we can't even buy one for that.

[84DKE]

Na u didnt read it wrong $2800 an my mate has a shipping company so i just gotta pay shipping to his dock an he'll bring it to the docks an a warehouse in brisbane !!!!

 

An yea KV said will only cost me about 2-3k to get it fitted in with diff if i supply the

Engine,box an diff

 

But i wouldnt mind learning the ropes an do it myself its something i love doing an would love to learn the conversion side of things!!!

 

I already do interior an Panel an paint an fibreglassing custom interior stuff so would love to be able to do it all myself except wiring hahaha

[84DKE]

My mums ex boyfriend in canada is a well connected so I get his rates boys hahahha thank god or ide be looking around the 4-5k mark hahaha

[19914afc]

No I was referring to you saying they weigh the same as a twin turbo sr20? Why would anyone run a twin turbo sr20?

 

And I said to try a LS1 as they are lighter, I am putting 1uz into my T18 at the moment and the new engine isn't much heavier than the std engine.

[84DKE]

Hahaha sorry yea i don't no i got a few mates running twins on a sr20 an heard people say Y ''

 

But i wouldnt hav a clue aye maybe the whole symetrical look hahaha an i thought of a ls1 cause of the alloy block n heads so much lighter but KV reckons a 350 cause its shorter in width as previous stated haha

 

I was just gunna run a 304 cammed up an he still said go the 350 ci ?? Maybe he just loves them engines i no he specialises in the chevs who knows haha

 

Ive tried looking to see if theres any videos on shortening diffs an can't find anything aye ; (

 

Seen a few on engine mounts an they look a piece of cake or i could run a torque plate mount on the front maybe !!!

 

 

[19914afc]

I would rather 350 over 304, Dout you'll find any videos on shortening a diff, a fair bit of work in it. I just used a hilux diff in my T18. And a 1uzfe isn't much bigger than a 308.

[84DKE]

Yea ive been told to run a hilux diff by a few people !! Do they bolt straight up or do u gotta fiddle with new brackets ??

 

An yeah not havin any luck hahaha

 

Thats y i thought ide start a thread on here to see if anyones done it before an get some tips hahaha i no fuk all about corolla's

 

Ive got a Vp HSV clubsport that ive fully fabricated an droppin a tuff ls1 on nos in an full custom vy interior fibreglassed into it !!

 

So commodores I'm sweet as but these little things i no zilch hahaha

[19914afc]

Just stick to the commodores then... can build a competitive old commodore cheap.

[ke70dave]

With the way you are communicating to us, knowone is going to put in any effort to help you.

 

Stop putting "hahah" on the end of all your sentences.

 

I and others are happy to help, but not without some effort on your part.

[Jono.C]

I still don't understand this twin turbo Sr20 remark, or why he believes the turbo and manifold weigh 60 kg..

[altezzaclub]

Cut him some slack Jono, it was just a figure he took a punt at. Sure aa hell its a big lump of iron hanging out the front.

 

Anyway, the original comments stand, with that much weight in the nose it will be quite understeery. Then when you get the power on it will be quite oversteery!

 

Stiffening the front will make it understeer more, but it all depends on what you want to do with it and what you're used to. If you're a Commodore man then the 'rolla will still seem quite nimble. The worst thing I can think of is the body twisting and flexing. Not only does it have extra weight jumping around in the nose, a much heavier gearbox behind that, it will also have a much heavier diff at the back and no doubt a bigger, heavier fuel tank. You've probably exceeded the GVM for the car before you start adding torque twist!

 

So expect to have to strengthen quite a bit of the body mounting points, but there's no reason why not. I think nearly everyone on here would go 4AGE, then turbo 4cyl, then maybe a few with a V6, a couple with the 1UZ or any alloy V8, but you will struggle to find someone who has done what you're planning!

 

Good luck! Don't forget a build thread.

[ke70dave]

I don't think the weight is that big of deal.

 

its probably an 800-900kg with a k motor, whats another 100-200kg? 1000-1100 is still a damn light car. and i would have a guess that all the hilux diff, rol cage gearbox will probably almost equal out the extra weight in the engine bay and the overal weight distribution front to rear wont change THAT much.

 

To do what this guy is talking about properly, about the only thing left with anything to do with corolla is going to be the badge.

 

a quick list assuming you go for the big v8 and associated stuff to make it an all rounder car.

 

-new engine

-modified firewall

-modified trans tunnell.

-custom engine mounts adn gearbox mounts, i wouldnt be supprised if you have to do something with the oil pan

-A hilux differential is going to need all the mounts from a standard ke diff transfered. tailshaft to suit. then find an LSD to make it work. pick a good final drive.

-you are probably going to want to make the rear suspension a bit better, either with a panhard rod, or howeever else you stop leaf springs from going from side to side

-choose your rear brakes based on what fits on a hilux, either way they are going to be bigger

-massive front brakes to suit, including all new suspensions (carefully thought out suspension to cope with the extra weight)

-something new with the brake master cylinder perhaps

-custom made hydraulic clutch (or leave it if you're going auto)

-a small roll cage perhaps, either the rear half or the whole lot. something to stop you dying in the event it all goes pear shaped

-and all the other stuff i havent mentioned that will probably take twice as long as all the stuff mentioned already.

 

By the time you have done all that, essentially no corolla left.

 

do_eet. Get out the welding and the grinder.

Edited October 2, 2012 by ke70dave

[84DKE]

Thanks to the guys that have givin me actual advice instead of debating with me ontwin turbo's or what not

 

Well i'll start from scratch for those who want to listen !!

 

When i was down at powercruise this year at willowbank raceway i saw dark purple near black ke30 corolla with a v8 just tearing up the track and havin fun ski-ing everywhere !!

 

Now i chased this bloke down to speak to him about how hard it was an what he had to do to fit what he was running in the tiny ke30,

 

He told me he was running a 304 block stroked to a 355 carbied an showed me what he had to cut to get the v8 radiator to fit showed me were he notched the chassis to fit the alternater i think it was,

 

He also put a 10 bolt salsbury diff in the rear with thicker brackets an strengthened custom tail shaft an he's since changed his gear box but did run the T700 an only had to cut the trans tunnel very minor to fit an said the wiring was pretty basic just a few upgraded fuses,

 

And of course ran bigger brakes an a upgraded fuel pump on the stock tank an had no roll cage

 

Now heres what was suggested to me by KV's RESTO N FAB!!!

 

To run a 350ci cause there shorter in width an u don't need to touch chassis rail at all, i even put to him if u need to strengthen control arms an he said no cause the corolla's definately punched above there wieght when designed,

 

Also depending on gearbox i would choose to run would depend on how much trans would be effected ex.. T400 would need significant trans tunnel modification as to a 2sp power glide or T350

 

An he said to chuck either the borgwarner,salsbury or 9 inch diffs didnt matter !!

 

Now I'm not a fan or turbo's so thats why i don't wanna mess with em or do a turbo or a newer corolla engine conversion, i no some people are hard out fans an think destroying a car brand with completely different modifications is a "sin" but ive for ever wanted a ke30 with a v8,

 

Thats why ive gone down this road, i love the shape of the ke30's an my pop who passed away owned one an always wondered what it would be like to put a 308 in one !!

 

Now after seeing scottys green ke 355 stroker on nos at powercruise an then this ke sedan with a v8 at the track i just wanna build something me n pop always dreamed of...

 

So this was my plan

 

304 block

Hi rise manifold

Barry grant Carbie

Tuff t700 gearbox

Tuff cam

Gilmer drive

Alloy radiator

Electric water pump

Borgwarner or 10bolt salsbury diff

Half roll cage (don't wanna cut dash up)

Fuel cell 55-70litres

 

What skill i hav an what i can do.......

 

•Make roll cage an fit

•run new fuel lines

•Gearbox crossmember customized

•I'm pretty confident after talking to my mate that i can mock up engine mounts or we will run a •chassi plate instead of mounts

•Exhaust

•Any trans tunnel modifications needed

•An i can weld new diff but need someone to •shorten it after i mock it up

•Install bracks an coil overs in front

 

So realistically all i need to spend coin on would be

 

•engine plate

•Re wiring (properly) if i hav to upgrade any fuses

•Custom tail shaft with loop

•Shortened diff

•Diff gears

•Front sway bay

•Brakes checked properly an a bigger booster to suit conversion

•Any body strengthening if i can't do it myself

 

An if i go down the 304 block way instead of a 350ci i can source parts super cheap an easy or 80% free

 

I came on this site cause the guy who has the ke30 said it would be a helpful site for info so please i hope ive covered the basis's of what i need info on or Any help I'm chasing

 

If anyone know links pics or anything related to what ive asked help if u wanna be a jerk an carry on about running one or two turbo's on a sr20 which i couldnt careless!!

 

then PISS OFF with ya pointless bullshit move on to the TOPIC IN HAND AN THE THREAD STARTER!!!!

 

(sorry if i offend those who are helping me not directed at u)

 

OPINIONS WELCOMED but please try to keep it to what I'm asking about not if u think i can't get something at a price i can cause u can't or what ever,

Cause we can all Do things others can't so please don't be offended but i wont be debated on irrelavent stuff please

 

Kind regards 84DKE

[84DKE]

Ps don't need to touch firewall engines fit an i no a ls1 is lighter but I'm puttin a worked ls1 in my clubby an its costing shitloads for parts all cause of the efi side of things an i don't wanna go down that road agin cheers

[kickn5k]

Are you head strong on using a GM product?

A 289/302 based Windsor is probably a better option fitment wise. There is a 289 Windsor powered ke20 in Vic, it was built about 10-15 years ago. The handling was not the best ke20 I'd been in but definatly not the worst. Sadly no longer a legal engine conversion in Vic.