ke30king Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 so it steers properly and doesn't handle like a boat Quote
Brendo Posted July 29, 2006 Report Posted July 29, 2006 race car? or drag car? it would be a hard and homosexual conversion... prolly spend 6 months getting it running for it to pop a head gasket if you wanted to build some abortion sport sedan, first come up with $300,000+ then mid mount it if you want it to corner, put your idea to bed... good night your a homo :lolcry: Quote
Fat Bastard Customs Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) well f@$k Someone has something fair stuck up there arse! i'ed like to know how it is homosexual its just like any other conversion u buy the engine u take the old one out u put the new one in fit it correctly and its in. who is to say any engine could pop a f@$king head gasket! and were did 300 tho come from, there are little corolla's with 1uzfe's with have had less than 5,000 just to get the on the track! and y would i want to mid mount it in a T-18! WHOA!!! Slow down turbo, don't go gettin' all supercharged on me :) :jamie: :jamie: I think what he means is that... a) with a 7M in it it would handle like a wet sponge unless u midmounted it which would cost stupid money, and b) that a 7M is renowned for blowing head gaskets, very poor head bolt spacing I've heard. And since when have 1JZ-GTE's and 1G-GTE's been hard to get, ring around man, SSS Automotive in Girraween usually has heaps of them, 1JZ's anyway :dance: Edited July 30, 2006 by Fat Bastard Customs Quote
pozman Posted July 30, 2006 Report Posted July 30, 2006 yeah you have to be real careful with 7m's, they push gaskets out like they were never there Quote
roids70 Posted July 30, 2006 Author Report Posted July 30, 2006 right well thats all that could have bin said in the first place! thank you Quote
beerhead Posted July 31, 2006 Report Posted July 31, 2006 It's easy as pie to get 1J's and 1G's in QLD. 1JZGTE bare engines go for $1200 -1600 from the importers in QLD. They've got all the plugs still attached to the motor making aftermarket ecu installs easy. Also there is a complete 1G with loom ecu, manual box for $1750. Check out the tradingpost site, might be worth the freight. Quote
TOY3TG Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 why not go 3SGTE will fit easy and still be able to make 250rwkw fk easy. they have about the same amount of hp stock, less torque obviously. and they don't weigh a tonne. and they have the exhaust on the same side of a 3T like that really matters anyway when u run a massive side pipe in a drag/track car. Quote
love ke70 Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 why not go 3SGTE will fit easy and still be able to make 250rwkw fk easy. they have about the same amount of hp stock, less torque obviously. and they don't weigh a tonne. and they have the exhaust on the same side of a 3T like that really matters anyway when u run a massive side pipe in a drag/track car. first good reply! man, bolting a big engine in a small space is VERY difficult, even when done properly! ive had the 1ggte out of my ke70 twice and it was all engineered accurately, and it is sooo difficult to get back in just coz their is such little room. 3sgte is a brilliant suggestion 7M would be good for nothing but skiddzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote
styler Posted August 9, 2006 Report Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) except the fact that they are fwd engines, including the mr2 model which is a reversed fwd setup. so its quite a bit of modifying.... just converting the engine from fwd to rwd, thats before you even fit the thing in the car. but recently people have been starting to convert 3sgte's to rwd for older celicas and maybe some other cars on toymods.net, there are a few threads on there discussing the modifications needed. 3sgte st185 = approx 180kw 3sgte st205 = approx 205kw 3sgte mr2 = approx 180? kw 250rw kw at the wheels = about 325kw at the fly so thats a fair amount of extra performance gear making that 140kw power gain, probably a few grand at least. AJPS @ Jul 26 2006, 07:04 PM) race car? or drag car? it would be a hard and homosexual conversion... prolly spend 6 months getting it running for it to pop a head gasket if you wanted to build some abortion sport sedan, first come up with $300,000+ then mid mount it if you want it to corner, put your idea to bed... good night the hard truth. for racing id say it would be terrible. front heavy and too much power and torque for the car, you would have to upgrade the entire driveline as well as "cut out your old engine bay and weld a new one in" or borrow redwarfs "12 foot shoe horn". then the engine isnt the greatest either as there are many better options out there and you will have to buy a gasket every month as they are notorious for blowing out headgaskets. as a drag car id say it would work "cut out your old engine bay and weld a new one in", then monster turbo and intercooler and driveline upgrade, 8 / 9 inch diff, better gearbox and some tubs on the back, suspension work and a well programmed management system, then its looking good. well f@$k Someone has something fair stuck up there arse! i'ed like to know how it is homosexual its just like any other conversion u buy the engine u take the old one out u put the new one in fit it correctly and its in. who is to say any engine could pop a f@$king head gasket! and were did 300 tho come from, there are little corolla's with 1uzfe's with have had less than 5,000 just to get the on the track! and y would i want to mid mount it in a T-18! its not as easy as "buy it, put it in". no where close actually, especially for a 7mgte in a t18! yeah any engine could pop a headgasket but 7mgtes are famous for it. corolla with 1uzfe on track for under 5000... he must have been transporting a 1uzfe on the back seat to his home after the race. "well if your are going to all the effort of putting a 7mgte in a t18, it would take you and extra hour to mid mount it..." i wouldnt say a 7mgte in a t18 would be a fairly easy, economical, reliable, well handling conversion. Edited August 10, 2006 by styler Quote
TOY3TG Posted August 9, 2006 Report Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) yeah a few grand to get the 3SGTE up to the mark but how much will u want to spend on a 7MGTE they are what 170 something KW stock? u would probly be looking at the same amount of cash, leigh forests 3SGTE is still using the CT26 that thing is almost std engine wise tahts making 225rwkw with cams restrictor in the intake. if you do get a 7M you will already need to retorque the head if it hasnt been done and change the gasket. yes 3S are FWD so a few mods will need to be done, probly make up a new intake plenum while your at it to point to the front get some custom engine mounts, make a new sump, not all that hard i reckon the cost of a 7M conversion would probly out weigh a 3S in the end if you have to cut out the firewall and change some of the front end setup, what about the sump on a 7M do they need to be modified? my mate is putting a 3SGTE in his sprinter it doesnt seem all that hard or expensive for the end result, just a bit of an engine mount change and new manifolds, sump, and driveline upgrade of corse as you would for most old skool toyota conversions because std driveline and brakes arent going to cut it especially when going 3S or 7M. but if your going to build a track car wouldnt you upgrade things like your turbo manifold when fitting an aftermarket turbo. and for all who say you could make a better drag car with a 7M look at chivy kings 3SGTE 1200hp drag car running 7seconds ;) i say 3SGTE for the win but for wank factor of having a big 3.0l donk and lots of out of the box torque go the 7M. oh just go 20B turbo and be done with it then there is no argument :P. Edited August 9, 2006 by TOY3TG Quote
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