I was driving like a grandpa (oh the irony) in the cressida on the way to work yesterday morning. It was pissing down rain, entered a round a bout slow, then all of a sudden the ass starts coming around, counter steer....... sliding, stopped with my passanger headlight right next to a sign. Must have been oil or something on the road for me to slide like that. Was weird though, i go through that round-a-bout all the time, and usually twice the speed i was traveling, and nothing any other day.