you don't want them.. trust me..waste of money i should know i have 4 of them, and they have lasted a year and for 400 bucks of tyres I'm not pleased, stick with 185/65's they don't look too bad profile wise and are much cheaper..
PS. handbrakes, bad toe settings, and cooks don't help. oh and it 205/60/r13 you had the 60 in the right spot :jamie: