link me to the own3d thread please :y: nice research skills, i bow down
even so, my point was that a 7afe isn't a shit motor just because it's got a narrow angle head. a stock 4k probably makes like a good solid 45bhp (no way they make 60) so imagine how well a 114hp 1.8 is going to go in the same car. definately even better if you add a small/big/20v G head, but it's not like the car is going to be slow and gay without it :kiwi:
btw, from club4ag articles, it's been shown that a 7age makes no more or less torque than a 7afe, just more top end power :D