Mr Revhead

oh sorry only the first pics downloaded for me. bu ton looking at the others its definitly an upright one! jasma is a standard, 5zgin is a top wheel maker! must to manifolds as well

so whats your engine out of? looks like a celica to me

i think your going to need the stock AFM. beams: Breakthrough Engineering And Mecahnical Systems don't ask........... i know a coupla people who have played with these

I'm afraid that club4ag article was written years ago and is not 100% correct in all matters.... most of those part numbers are correct, but some of the dates etc are incorrect. and they include some superceded numbers, for example 13201-19125 s/s to 13201-19126 for the late ae92 and the ae101 (silvertop) the new rod is as near identical as i can tell from having them side by side. its quite common for a part number to change from the production version to the parts version. that rod is the same for the 4agze versions to. so effectivly 13201-19125 IS 13201-19126 as other than the letters/numbers cast into them they are the same. you have to remember there is 2 rods that were used in the 4agze, the early is massive compared to the later one. and i AM a dealer :y:

you need to photo graph them all together to properly show the differences. the black top rod is totally diferent, much skinner i can assure you I'm correct on this, iv ordered brand new ones of all versions and done hours of research :P

pretty sure rod length is the same..... iv got some somewhere ill measure. the pistons are very different..... but do fit and work with a silvertop the earlier 4AGZE rods are the same as early (not bluetop) rods the 2 20v rods are different from each other, yes. weaker isnt the right word... they are very strong. good for 300hp and 9000 rpm. thats the silvertop/late 4ag/ze rods heres how it goes.... cranks: bluetop big port engine as in ae82/ae86 40mm rod journals then ALL other 4ages and 4agzes have the same crank with 42mm rod journals. rods: bluetop has one type to suit the 40mm journals. with the ae92 bigports they had a big chunky rod to suit the new crank a few months AFTER the small port change they had another rod, this one is smaller than the earlier 42mm version but is still very strong. the next change is with the black top 20v when it was lightend more. this rod is no good for 8500+ 4agzes use the same rods as the corrosponding 4age. there is no special treatment of those rods or cranks there is a HUGE amount of misinformation about these engines on the net so becareful what you beleive. my facts are from opening several engines and hours and hours of epc work as well as ordering and inspecting brand new items

WTF?? i seem to have wondered into trannies.com :P

whered you get ya measurements from? I'm pretty sure rods are the same length yeah combustion chamber is different, but BT pistons work fine. the silver top rods are the same as the later smallport rods. small ports have 2 size rods. there is no difference between 4agze rods and 4age rods. they use the same and share date changes. the only internal difference in 4agzes are the pistons and rings. heres a good write up: blacktop vs silvertop

97n ae82?? you must mean 87.... 4age will fit in easy

i bet most quality ecus can run it. and if theres one u want that can't, change the sprokets.

yep, kick em. as for the shafts.. look into it a bit more. i can't recall for sure if you can use 1/ 2and 1/2

yes. totally. id be interested as to the reason given for that!

what do you mean limiting ya self to the early model s/c? if you get that box it will only suit forced induction

i would do that, but u can't see the s/c in my engine bay!

ok, is your ae82 turbo or supercharged? if not don't DO IT. the e5# ratios are wider and youll slow ya car down a lot. i it is turbo etc then yes it will fit, you will need to swap the selectors over to the other side. amnd play around with ya driveshafts i think you use the s/c inner shafts and the stock outers

yep matt is alans son isnt it weird..... most kiwis on this site are all from the same small town and seem to know most of the same people! :D revs kill rods, not boost........ to a point

push what? :hammer:

ok, what really happens pilot gives it gas, plane starts to move, instantly the belt starts to move... then the brains of all watchign explode as they can't comprehend what they are seeing! this question is like trying to understand a woman. the answer is fatal :hammer:

but it is different, as using the brakes is friction.... the ground isnt moving, nor it the wheel so unless the engines over come the friction of pads on disc, or tyre on ground, it can't move. in the belt scenario friction is eliminated by the wheels which are free to turn. gong back to that link someone posted early, it makes reference to an experiment where they placed a thrust powered model on a conveyer belt and meauserd its time over X distance. then did the same on the ground. the times were so close to being the same that the only difference was the friction from the increaseed wheel speed. which was sweet FA. that proves the plane can take off thats it exactly :) welcome to the darkside jamie :)

8 pages? bah pussies! there are forums around with over a hundred pages! :)

correct uptill the last 2 words :lol: your still thinking in car terms the wheels allow a speed difference. so you can move the plane back or forwards at varying speeds..... the wheels allow that. as we are applying thrust, the plane moves forward. you muat think of the thrust. thrust pushes something. to stop that object moving you have to apply an opposite force. in this instance there is no opposite force, as the rotation of the wheels allows a speed diffeerence between plane and the belt. you have to stop thinking of the wheels as driving the plane, or even as wheels... they are bearings :) oh, and there was terrorists. but i got them :)

yeah but its not stationary!! your still thinking as if the wheels move the plane, they don't! its thrust from the engine that moves it... not the wheels. your still thinking likes its a car

:)

try placing a cold cloth over your head to help dissapate heat! hey... theres another question..... can redwarf create enough heat to make enough steam from the wet cloth to power a generator enough to create enough power to power a fan to keep him cool :)

:) but plane do fly. as the wheels arnt driving the plane... there just there to allow a speed difference between the two. thrust moves the plane, it has too, basic physics says so. thrust works against air. the key is how wheels and wheel bearings work....