gr33nm0nk3y Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 just cut em, i cut 2 1/2 coils off on my pvan, rides better, doesnt bounce all that much as i thought it would.. if your replacing them anyway just chop em and see what you think for yourself.. -bc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerhead Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Have a search on the site for RA60 struts in corollas before you bother, its a downgrade handling wise. Early corona or AE86 are your best upgrades strut wise. Well, the RA60 struts/brakes are going in soon.. I was going to go into Pedders to get my car looked at and have my options laid out for me but I figure the different struts will affect what I can upgrade to haha. Will refrain from any cutting of springs until the new struts I guess. :) Cheers for all of your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h1_roll4 Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 bring it round to my place and we'll do it for you haha 1 and a half coils should give it a nice ride height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_rolla_ke30 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 cut them i cut mine on my ke30 with 15s, and it sit just on the gaurds looks tuff and drives great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1doony Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 cut them josh will do a very proffesional job, its quite an easy job, just need soemthing to cut them with just make sure you mark them up the same height Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styler Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 don't cut stock springs, they are too soft and need the extra coils so they don't bottom out. its illegal because its dangerous and doesnt work. also no insurance cover if you have an accident. aftermarket springs are shorter but stiffer to compensate so you don't bottom out. they work well and are legal. also insurance approved as long as you tell them. also a part of changing to stiffer springs is upgrading the damper rate to suit the stiffer spring, and the damper stroke to suit the lowered height of the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67Rolla-Ken Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 don't cut stock springs, they are too soft and need the extra coils so they don't bottom out.its illegal because its dangerous and doesnt work. also no insurance cover if you have an accident. aftermarket springs are shorter but stiffer to compensate so you don't bottom out. they work well and are legal. also insurance approved as long as you tell them. also a part of changing to stiffer springs is upgrading the damper rate to suit the stiffer spring, and the damper stroke to suit the lowered height of the spring. x2 You might get away with it, but the risk is not worth it. Why knowingly add a fault to your car that voids any cover?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwarf Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 x3 Also refer post #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 x2You might get away with it, but the risk is not worth it. Why knowingly add a fault to your car that voids any cover?? Exactly. Cut springs are one of the illegal things that are illegal for a very good reason (not just a revenue raiser or hippy green thingy). Cut springs alter the suspension dynamics of the car outside of the boundaries for which it was designed. Chopped springs often become non-captive, which means going over a big bump can actually force the spring out of the seats, thus transfering the full shock load of the wheels through to the body (and vice versa), not to mention completely screwing up your dynamics and quite likely spearing you off the road into a tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78_7kRolla Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 If it's only a temporary fix like mine were and your not cutting too much then i say go for it. Decent shocks help as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coln72 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 cable ties make them captive :doh: Yes they are illegal but they wont make your car spear off the road if you are sensible and take appropriate precautions. In my experience, they wont bottom out, collapse or do anything nasty. I think my ke35 ended up having 2.5 coils cut out in the end and it wasn't too bad (we didnt actually have to take the coils out of the struts when we cut for the final time :laff: ) but I was running decent strut inserts. Actually I think it was too low at 2.5 coils. It handled a lot better with 1.5 coils cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 me and my bro have only ever ran cut springs, i can't see any reason why its bad if its done right, yes cut stock springs will bottom out easyer and may fall out if cut to far for the shocker. what we always do is cut stock spring with shorter shocks, to start with, then run a stock heavyer spring cut down out of another car with the cut coil of the spring flattend out to sit in the pearch like stock ones, then run shorter shocks to keep them captive, or make spring holders/tags at the bottom spring pearch like 4wd's use. the shhhocks always are better though. also not all aftermaket lowered springs are heavyer than stock, so really you run into the same problems as cutting stock springs. ive seen it lots of times. i would just cut them if your only droping a small bit, they should even still be captive. hope this helps cheers, dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGH ROLLER Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 CHOP 'EMM!!!! is long as you drive normally it's fine. I have good ol' "Makita" springs on my daily charade for over 2 years, and never had any trouble....it was just heaps bumpy and rooted my shocks...but it looked mad up to you, but remember the following: -One day you'll want to raise it back -Defectable....damn 5-0... -Changes steering/suspension dynamics of car -EVERYTHING will come loose (interior) and start to rattle....f@$king annoying -VERY bumpy so not many positives there, but like i said it's ur call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camcam Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) xr 8 springs are sick man Edited November 3, 2008 by camrollake70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbey Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 don't cut stock springs, they are too soft and need the extra coils so they don't bottom out.its illegal because its dangerous and doesnt work. also no insurance cover if you have an accident. aftermarket springs are shorter but stiffer to compensate so you don't bottom out. they work well and are legal. also insurance approved as long as you tell them. also a part of changing to stiffer springs is upgrading the damper rate to suit the stiffer spring, and the damper stroke to suit the lowered height of the spring. Common misconception - cut springs will be stiffer, not softer. If you cut them, you will need to increase the damping rate of your shocks to match. Hence you see all the dumped ke-sevs getting around and they are "oversprung". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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