hey guys, i've got a fairly major problem on my hands.

 

some time last week the brakes on my ke20 went really spongy. i looked at the fluid reservoir and it was almost empty. topped it up hoping that no iar had got in but alas it has.

 

fixing the brakes isn't my problem, i can't get my front wheels off to bleed them. all the nuts come off fine but the hub ring is stuck on to my stub axle. i have soaked it in wd40, hit it, kicked it, hit it with a rubber mallet, yelled at it. nothing seems to want to move it. i even drove up and down the driveway with no nuts on hoping to loosen it.

 

i haven't been hitting it too hard because i've only had it on the scissor jack and it didn't look to stable. is there a way for me to get it off without damaging the car/wheel/myself?

 

cheers for any help guys and gals.

hey guys, i've got a fairly major problem on my hands.

 

some time last week the brakes on my ke20 went really spongy. i looked at the fluid reservoir and it was almost empty. topped it up hoping that no iar had got in but alas it has.

 

fixing the brakes isn't my problem, i can't get my front wheels off to bleed them. all the nuts come off fine but the hub ring is stuck on to my stub axle. i have soaked it in wd40, hit it, kicked it, hit it with a rubber mallet, yelled at it. nothing seems to want to move it. i even drove up and down the driveway with no nuts on hoping to loosen it.

 

i haven't been hitting it too hard because i've only had it on the scissor jack and it didn't look to stable. is there a way for me to get it off without damaging the car/wheel/myself?

 

cheers for any help guys and gals.

 

G'day mate hows it going?

 

I found that the only way that i could get my wheels off was to put a crowbar/thin piece of solid pipe through one of the holes in your wheel, and simply lever it off.

 

Not really sure why they get stuck? Guess its surface rust or someting.

 

Anyway hope this helps, let me know how you get on :jamie:

 

Cheers, Mark

Edited March 22, 201016 yr by project_KE55

Both of you have wheels with a centre bore which isn't big enough for the (stub)axle.

 

I had the same problem with a set of old laser burn out wheels I used to use. You would basically press them on as you did up the wheel nuts.

To get them off I'd either jack it up and put it on some axle stands, then give it a few good whacks with a 4x2 until it came off.

Or - put thye wheel nuts on finger tight and take it for a quick drive around the back streets swerving on the wheel. The lateral load would be too much for the centre ring to hang onto and it'd crack off and wobble slightly. This is why I'd never do it straying to far from home.

 

Frankly I can't really believe I'm suggesting either as its pretty dodgy, but sometimes it just have to be done. Once you've got hem off I highly suggest getting some other wheels with the right centre bore diametre, or if its only just fouling then maybe give the wheel a little attention with a file so it doesn't happen again.

I would buy some wheel ramps, or you can come over tonight and borrow some.

 

Rest the rails on those so it is secure then hit them off with a big rubber mallet.

I have axle stands if you need to make it more secure.

 

Yell if you need a hand.

thanks from the responses guys. i know that the situation is not ideal but sometimes you just have to do it.

 

this sounds like as good a time as ever to upgrade my brakes/stud pattern. i'll see what i can do over the weekend. might hit you up on that offer of the ramps if they can give me enough clearance pete, if not then we'll see how stable it is with adams stands.

 

cheers.

+1 For Taz idea.

 

Mazda rims can get stuck on a KE1X hub also there like 0.5mm smaller in diameter and nuts press them on if you don't file the rim out.

 

So to get them off easy finger tight nuts go for drive. I live in a coldisack so find just doing 1 full loop there lose..LOL

 

Cameron.

 

(only did this once till I filed the rims out lol)

I seem to recall seeing a f*ckwit on 86dc with the same problem... He decided using an angle grinder to remove them was a good idea.

 

Please don't use an angle grinder :jamie:

put it on jack stands and kick them off real hard, at work the acv series Camry's get a fair amount of surface rust on the hubs on the steel wheels so we have to give them a really hard boot, but then we have them up on hoists and can grab onto stuff under the car to kick them out from behind.

at work if he have a wheel stuck on while its on the hoist we take all the wheel nuts off except one but leave it on very loose, then we get underneath the car hold on to somethin under the car and kick the back of wheel as hard as we can. the one nut stops the wheel from flying off. it shakes the hoist like crazy but cars less likly to fall off, i wouldnt do it on a jack or stand.

something else to note is that hitting the tyre absorbs most of the energy

you are trying to use to get the wheel off, although I have not tried this myself,

I probably would if I found myself in the same situation...

 

maybe a bit of softwood, eg pine stud stud about a foot long and make

contact inside the rim, not on the bead section to tap it off.

 

tie wire a long section of stud across the wheel through the spokes and work it

back and forth with a mate to lever it off.

 

although i wont suggest it from an dangerous / insurance point of view, driving around

in a secluded area with the wheel nuts only nipped up and not tightened does provide

the mechanical advantage needed to work the rim loose to some degree.

 

hmmm... I'm going to go with the jack it up SECURELY with wheel nuts a few turns loose and kick it off

theroy, sounds the best of the lot

Edited March 22, 201016 yr by styler

at work if he have a wheel stuck on while its on the hoist we take all the wheel nuts off except one but leave it on very loose, then we get underneath the car hold on to somethin under the car and kick the back of wheel as hard as we can. the one nut stops the wheel from flying off. it shakes the hoist like crazy but cars less likly to fall off, i wouldnt do it on a jack or stand.

 

 

ye that's what we do, forgot to say that we leave one nut on.

thanks for the responses guys. i think i'm going to try it with the wheels on lock facing out so that i can kick it from the front, this way minimizing the amount of me that is under the car and the amount of side to side movement.

 

if that don't work i'm off to find a dead end street... near a hospital just in case.

+1 KICK IT KICK IT, just make sure its real secure on jack stands (even stick some bricks under there just incase) and leave 2 nuts on very loosy

Jack up car, put on stands, undo wheel nuts, remove spare tyre, throw spare tyre at stuck wheel. Repeat last instruction as many times as necessary. File out centre of wheel to suit hub, replace wheel.

 

I've found this method to be the most satisfactory.